Tank system prices

[Hyzer373]

Hi guys I’m using the gardiner backpack currently with barrels in van but would like to upgrade at some point to a system with the tank & reel etc. I’d still be filling with spotless water so don’t need the filters etc.

 

[ched999uk]

How good at DIY are you?
Don't be tempted to just buy a tank and strap it down. A 400lts tank will weight 450kg and in the even of an accident it could weigh 4 x as much, so you want it in a decent frame bolted through the chassis with spreader plates.

It is not complicated to do but if in doubt get a professional to do it - that could mean getting a local mechanic to bolt the tank in and an auto electrician to add a battery (split or B2B charger if necessary), appropriate fuses and wire in a pump and controller. Then you just have a few hose fittings to sort.

 

[Iron Giant]

Systems are bespoke to each company, you'll need to get in touch with each one and get them to email you a quote so you have it in black and white, it depends on where you are in the UK and how far you would be willing to travel and sit around all day whilst it's fitted. I am based in County Durham and travelled to purefreedom.co.uk in Grimsby to have mine fitted I know of lads travelling a lot further than that from Scotland to down South,

Purefreedom could build you a system and deliver it on a pallet to you I believe and you can have it fit by a local mechanic but you will need the high tensile bolts and spreader plates for the fitting

 

[spruce]

Systems are bespoke to each company, you'll need to get in touch with each one and get them to email you a quote so you have it in black and white, it depends on where you are in the UK and how far you would be willing to travel and sit around all day whilst it's fitted. I am based in County Durham and travelled to purefreedom.co.uk in Grimsby to have mine fitted I know of lads travelling a lot further than that from Scotland to down South,

Purefreedom could build you a system and deliver it on a pallet to you I believe and you can have it fit by a local mechanic but you will need the high tensile bolts and spreader plates for the fitting

However, its a little more complicated than drilling a couple of holes in the van floor.

For example; if your van has a 600kg payload, you can't fit a 650 litre tank in it.

If like me you have a Peugeot Boxer 333 with a payload of around 1400kgs, I still can't fit my 650 litre tank across the front bulkhead as a full tank of water will overload the front axle.
On my 2 previous same vans (Citroen Relay swb) my tank was fitted long ways which didn't suit me. With my current Peugeot the tank is fitted width ways but further back the just ahead of the rear axle. This give me usable space infront and behind the tank. 5 of my 9 securing bolts are through the chassis of the van.

Tank positioning is very important so as not to overload either the front or rear axle, even if the weight of the tank is within the van's payload.

 

[Iron Giant]

However, its a little more complicated than drilling a couple of holes in the van floor.

For example; if your van has a 600kg payload, you can't fit a 650 litre tank in it.

If like me you have a Peugeot Boxer 333 with a payload of around 1400kgs, I still can't fit my 650 litre tank across the front bulkhead as a full tank of water will overload the front axle.
On my 2 previous same vans (Citroen Relay swb) my tank was fitted long ways which didn't suit me. With my current Peugeot the tank is fitted width ways but further back the just ahead of the rear axle. This give me usable space infront and behind the tank. 5 of my 9 securing bolts are through the chassis of the van.

Tank positioning is very important so as not to overload either the front or rear axle, even if the weight of the tank is within the van's payload.

You raise some very good points, and a mechanic should but may not know the above and just put a tank in, the same with some suppliers I have seen tanks right up to the back doors one locally in an older shape Citroen relay that rear axle has to be overloaded with a Facelift 400-500l system in it

 

[Crystalalan]

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How good at DIY are you?
Don't be tempted to just buy a tank and strap it down. A 400lts tank will weight 450kg and in the even of an accident it could weigh 4 x as much, so you want it in a decent frame bolted through the chassis with spreader plates.

It is not complicated to do but if in doubt get a professional to do it - that could mean getting a local mechanic to bolt the tank in and an auto electrician to add a battery (split or B2B charger if necessary), appropriate fuses and wire in a pump and controller. Then you just have a few hose fittings to sort.

sound advice from ched. I noticed you are located in the midlands. I can highly recommend the cleaning warehouse in Willenhall. They did a terrific job of fitting my system.

 

[scottish cleaning service]

My tank is mostly over back axle. Last year the leaf spring snapped at the thin part. Decided to fit two new leaf springs in case the other one snapped and changed all 4 shock absorbers. Read a good article about new electric transit but can only carry 900kgs. It said range is 150 miles but not fully laden. Still a waste of time for us.

 

[spruce]

You raise some very good points, and a mechanic should but may not know the above and just put a tank in, the same with some suppliers I have seen tanks right up to the back doors one locally in an older shape Citroen relay that rear axle has to be overloaded with a Facelift 400-500l system in it

The rear axle of my Boxer van will take a 900 kg weight before overloading the rear axle. I don't know what the rear axle weights were for my Citroën Relay 1100 with a 1154 kg payload, but fitting the 650 litre tank length ways was the way most of the wfp fitters fitted them, so I did the same.

Tank positioning can be a minefield. As I've mentioned earlier, I'm unable to fit a 650 litre tank across the width of my van behind the bulkhead. But if I owned an older Vivaro or Renault Trafic, I could fit the tank behind the bulkhead due to the positioning of the axles. On those vans, the tank would sit approx midway between the front and rear axle.

One of the downsides to having the tank further back is a lot of weight isn't on the front axle, so grip in the wet isn't as good. It's easy to spin the front wheels on a wet road when trying for a gap in the traffic. I know of a windie who has fitted his tank across the bulkhead of his Citroen Relay. He is onto his second power steering.

 

[spruce]

My tank is mostly over back axle. Last year the leaf spring snapped at the thin part. Decided to fit two new leaf springs in case the other one snapped and changed all 4 shock absorbers. Read a good article about new electric transit but can only carry 900kgs. It said range is 150 miles but not fully laden. Still a waste of time for us.

I had a mono leaf spring break on my Citroën Relay. (Back then Citroën wanted £500 for each spring plus the U Bolts, + VAT at 17.5% and 2 hours labour at £75.00 an hours + VAT fitting charge.) I bought replacements from a spring maker in Wolverhampton. The van ended up looking like the van in the A team. The springs were 2 leaf but even lubricated, they used to squeak when driving along. Son used to say he could hear me coming down the road when picking him up for work.

 

[ched999uk]

I had a mono leaf spring break on my Citroën Relay. (Back then Citroën wanted £500 for each spring plus the U Bolts, + VAT at 17.5% and 2 hours labour at £75.00 an hours + VAT fitting charge.) I bought replacements from a spring maker in Wolverhampton. The van ended up looking like the van in the A team. The springs were 2 leaf but even lubricated, they used to squeak when driving along. Son used to say he could hear me coming down the road when picking him up for work.

I can just picture you now! Black van with red stripe, back end way up in the air but instead of the A Team music just a squeak squeak in time to the beat ?

 

[Hyzer373]

How good at DIY are you?
Don't be tempted to just buy a tank and strap it down. A 400lts tank will weight 450kg and in the even of an accident it could weigh 4 x as much, so you want it in a decent frame bolted through the chassis with spreader plates.

It is not complicated to do but if in doubt get a professional to do it - that could mean getting a local mechanic to bolt the tank in and an auto electrician to add a battery (split or B2B charger if necessary), appropriate fuses and wire in a pump and controller. Then you just have a few hose fittings to sort.

Hi mate I’m not too good at DIY if I’m honest lol.
What I’m finding difficult when looking online is most systems come with the DI equipment etc to purify water, I’d like to find a really basic budget system with just the tank, pump with controller & can obviously sort the hose reels myself.

 

[Pjj]

Hi mate I’m not too good at DIY if I’m honest lol.
What I’m finding difficult when looking online is most systems come with the DI equipment etc to purify water, I’d like to find a really basic budget system with just the tank, pump with controller & can obviously sort the hose reels myself.

Most of the main suppliers like Ionic’s , pure 02 , and pure freedom sell and fit delivery systems only so might be what you are looking for

 

[Hyzer373]

Most of the main suppliers like Ionic’s , pure 02 , and pure freedom sell and fit delivery systems only so might be what you are looking for

Cheers mate. All seem bit expensive for just delivery system, I thought as it’s just a tank & pump control would be cheaper than the other systems. Guess I’ll have to keep saving and building lol.

 

[Pjj]

Cheers mate. All seem bit expensive for just delivery system, I thought as it’s just a tank & pump control would be cheaper than the other systems. Guess I’ll have to keep saving and building lol.

Have a look at pure 02 systems they are the sister company to Ionic’s and usually will price match any other quotes they will also fit it in your van there stuff is bullet proof , obviously it’s not going to be anyware as cheap as building your own set up but there’s is crash tested and when fitted it’s ready to work .

 

[Hyzer373]

Hi @Pjj is there website this one Hydros System | Pure2O - The Reach & Wash® System

 

[Pjj]

Hi @Pjj is there website this one Hydros System | Pure2O - The Reach & Wash® System

Yes if you also go on Ionic’s website they sell delivery systems only as well and they have a secondhand section as well

 

[Pjj]

Might be to big but hears a couple of examples

 

[Iron Giant]

Cheers mate. All seem bit expensive for just delivery system, I thought as it’s just a tank & pump control would be cheaper than the other systems. Guess I’ll have to keep saving and building lol.

It's not though as the prices usually include fitting as it would be professionally fitted so don't go off prices online phone a firm up and find out exactly what is included in the price also what you have to accept these days is prices on everything has gone up quite a bit.

 

[P4dstar]

Cheers mate. All seem bit expensive for just delivery system, I thought as it’s just a tank & pump control would be cheaper than the other systems. Guess I’ll have to keep saving and building lol.

I've got a 650 Brodex system I could be persuaded to part with.

 

[Part Timer]

I've got a 650 Brodex system I could be persuaded to part with.

You might have a Shitta system to sell soon as well ?

 

[Pjj]

You might have a Shitta system to sell soon as well ?

Lol he would have to pay someone to take other system ????