Van and system advice needed please.

Discussion in 'Water Fed Pole Cleaning' started by Viaticus, May 21, 2016.

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  1. Viaticus

    Viaticus Newcomer
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    Hi, I am looking at buying a van with built in system and I am finding all the terminology a bit of a mine field.

    The prices range from 1K to 6-7K.

    Are there any particular systems or makes, models etc I should stay away from? Or any pitfalls I should avoid.

    THe poles and brushes I get but the tanks and battery options, makes, models and power etc is all a bit new to me.

    Cheers
     
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  2. spruce

    spruce Grand Master
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    Before you do anything else buy a genuine TDS meter. Without knowing the tds of your tap water you can't make an informed decision on what system to buy.

    Then you need a van that will carry at least 400 liters of water.
     
  3. peter rogers

    peter rogers Grand Master
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    That's a pretty big range u have

    If u have a van decide these things

    If u want 1 or 2 man system
    How much u want to earn per week ?
    How much u are willing to trad

    All these will make the decisions for battery size tank size and. The amount of water u need to produce
     
  4. spruce

    spruce Grand Master
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    You're right. I was thinking as a single operator. The trouble is most buy the first van they like and then ask what size tank they can fit inside afterward.
     
  5. Taxlossloz

    Taxlossloz Grand Master
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    It's very simple don't be dazzled by fancy stuff - spruce is right find out your TDS that's the complicated bit doing the water filtration
    Then its just pump it out the tank through a reel , up a pole , out the brush - via battery power - if you buy the stuff yourself and DIY you will know how to replace stuff or upgrade - Spend money you save on a newer van or better poles
     
  6. Taxlossloz

    Taxlossloz Grand Master
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    If you got 6 k -rough guide
    3k van
    1k poles ( carbon x2plus univalve)
    1k filtration ( that's if TDS high)
    1k tank pump batt reel fittings etc
    That's generous you'd prob have 1k left to buy some more stuff like backpack , domestic pressure washer etc
    Compare the pre kitted vans at 6k see how new they are etc
    Get good poles don't go cheap
     
  7. Viaticus

    Viaticus Newcomer
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    Thanks for the help guys. I have ordered a TDS Meter so I will come back with more information on that.

    As for my plans - My goal is to earn circa 3K per month and I am happy starting a round from scratch and/or buying rounds that suit. At the beginning I am guessing the majority will be domestic work but I will also look to build the commercial side once I am comfortable. Ill be working alone the majority of the time, however, my brother in law has a round and will help me if I need in the early stages. The main thing is that I get up to 3K pm as quick as possible. I have money for investment through another business so I want to make sure I buy the right/suitable equipment but obviously I want to keep the initial outlay as low as possible.

    I have looked all over the net and each van has a different system and different set of specs. I want to make sure I dont get stung.

    Ill put up the TDS readings asap and again thanks for your help
     
  8. spruce

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    Once you know your tds you can then decide which system will suit you. If your water is soft then di is all you need. If its hard then you will need to use reverse osmosis to remove nearly all the minerals and di to 'polish' the remainder off.

    If you are on the boarder between r/o and di (say 100ppm or a tds of 100 - same thing) then having or not having a water meter will also influence your decision.

    If you are going r/o, have you got a place to store water in a 1000 IBC tank - a garage? This way you can process water whilst working and transfer to the van's tank as and when needed.

    If you have a 2 man setup then you should be looking at a 650 liter tank minimum. Ideally 2 poles, 2 hose reels and 2 pumps and 2 controllers. A 110 amph leisure battery will power those. This means you will need a van of around 1100 kg payload.

    Of course all this is pointless without customers, so have some leaflets printed and go knock on doors (canvass).

    Where are you and what made you decide you want to clean windows - excluding BIL?

    -
     
  9. Viaticus

    Viaticus Newcomer
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    Hi just coming back on this.

    Tested my water at home and it is showing 330 - how bad is that ?

    Also I've decided to take the plunge and go for a 2 man set up off the bat as I expect to grow this business seriously. The vans I've looked at so far are a Renault traffic and transit. Both come with rounds that are small but can be grown. My concern is the system I get installed. One of the rounds comes with a 250L system which won't cut it.

    I'll also be picking up a load of equipment which I'll have to sift through the and keep or sell etc?

    Any system recommendations based on that reading would be great
     
  10. kevinc250

    kevinc250 Well-Known Member
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    put some links up to the vans and stystems mate,you need an ro stystem with that tds,if you want to go big then you are looking at buying a 40/40 membrane and pre filters to produce enough water for what you'll need,also an ibc tank to store this water-do you have a suitable place for a metre square tank for water production?this bit comes before buying a van or stystem some things you can economise on but not water production
     
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