i tryed the test to day cing how mch my vac can lift lol it just lifts 2.5kilo ive lifted some big clumps to day and had no problim at all ide like to try the sky vac next if mine ever goes pop as it can lift an inpreseve 5 kilo G-) not shore if that is a bit over kill for gutter cleaning lol /emoticons/biggrin.png one thing i did find to day it was 60mph winds and i cleaned a 2 stroy house the poles were solid i recken if i had lite carbon i could of had a snaped section or to!! so glad i got the alli one im now geting used to the waight of them:rock: