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Tuffers
You spend your time (hours) and make your money by cleaning; and not by removing then reattaching brushes or other attachments all day.

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It takes seconds to change to a more suitable brush when using Gardiners equipment @Richard. I had an Unger pole with a Vikan brick on it when I started. It was a nightmare to change brushes. Gardiners equipment has enabled me to work so much faster.

 

I'm sorry mate, but you are coming across as a bit sour.

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cheapncheerful

you mean the brushes arent just supposed to fall off every now and then....twice and counting...if it happens again...i will not be amused especially if it fell off up above my head...:( cheapnpainful..

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Richard
We all work in different ways AND speed Richard.

 

 

 

To right, couldn’t agree more

 

 

Changing any make of bush & any attachments is easy and quick, by just doing 2 things.

 

 

Disconnect the pole hose from a quick release Y piece and remove the adjustable angle adapter from the pole, replace with a different brush set with angle adapter.

 

 

Any brush set up I need is there in the van, already assembled waiting to be attached to the pole.

 

 

I always keep 12 brushes hanging up ready to be used in the workshop, with different size extension, gooseneck, and bristles, trim finishes etc. I take with me what I need, if I do need any that day.

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Richard
It takes seconds to change to a more suitable brush when using Gardiners equipment @Richard. I had an Unger pole with a Vikan brick on it when I started. It was a nightmare to change brushes. Gardiners equipment has enabled me to work so much faster.

 

I'm sorry mate, but you are coming across as a bit sour.

 

 

Fair enough though, you may save a minute over my set up, when you change a brush.

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Smurf

I use lots of different tools & methods with a quick-loq system so is very handy not just for changing wfp brushes Richard.

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RiceRocket
:whistle::whistle: I did mention this to RiceRocket a while ago, but for some reason he didn't fancy doing it :).

I've never used a drill as I'm the modern man :cool:

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keir

Good thread!!!!

 

I finished last week using a gardiners medium hybrid, bloody good brush.......slow??? Nope good scrubbing power??? Yes but could do with being a tiny bit stiffer

My only mild bug bear with the new extreme range is the splay of the bristles allows the stock to close to the window, so its easy to bang and clang on the frames whereas the original extremes just sit a few mm higher off the glass and therefore you can be a bit more indiscriminate with brushing

 

Richard, i definitely will try one of your brushes as i like to try any bit of gear that improves cleaning, but have a couple of concerns..... The time old weight issue, if i remember rightly the new range weighs roughly the same as a Gardiners sill, well when i use the sill on the swivel neck it becomes hard to control, as even adjusted for the extra weight it still wants to spin perpendicular to the pole, but my main concern is if i get one and it cleans no better than any of my other brushes then i would feel like i have just bought a brush that might get used a few times for very specific jobs.

 

Also i think you are being a little harsh on the gardiner brand, for maintenance cleaning i think they have sewn up the market, i think they have matched weight and scrubbing ability nearly perfectly but each individual requires a little bit something different.

 

I havent tried vikans or ungers to be honest my first brush was a proclean brick, i then got an extreme, it will take a very very special brush to beat them, and if yours is that brush i will sing its praises for you and forever more, i have spent a fair bit on brushes over the past year and only wish you could try before you buy as it would've saved me at least £120

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keir

Richard, on your site it doesnt mention which is your new range, i have just ordered on of these

 

http://www.tecbuk.com/products/duel-trim-hybrid-brush-red-polyester-with-boars-hair-in-centre-1

 

I take it that the smaller stock denotes the lighter version? If not please could you ring me before sending my order out so i can have the newer version.

 

I very much look forward to trying one of your brushes and comparing it to my other brushes

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Richard
Richard, on your site it doesnt mention which is your new range, i have just ordered on of these

 

http://www.tecbuk.com/products/duel-trim-hybrid-brush-red-polyester-with-boars-hair-in-centre-1

 

I take it that the smaller stock denotes the lighter version? If not please could you ring me before sending my order out so i can have the newer version.

 

I very much look forward to trying one of your brushes and comparing it to my other brushes

 

 

 

It will be the newer version Hybrid.

 

 

The photos on the website haven’t been updated since the original brush came out in 2010. I will get around (one day) to updating the photography.

 

 

I hope you do get on with the Hybrid brush, it can be used faster, with its 100% coverage/spread on the glass and fewer brush strokes, and it does have the Boars Hair in the centre to scrub with. Turn your water flow up and be confident you can move on to the next pane of glass much sooner than you normally would.

 

 

Cheers, Richard.

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keir
It will be the newer version Hybrid.

 

 

The photos on the website haven’t been updated since the original brush came out in 2010. I will get around (one day) to updating the photography.

 

 

I hope you do get on with the Hybrid brush, it can be used faster, with its 100% coverage/spread on the glass and fewer brush strokes, and it does have the Boars Hair in the centre to scrub with. Turn your water flow up and be confident you can move on to the next pane of glass much sooner than you normally would.

 

 

Cheers, Richard.

 

Nice one, cant wait

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cheapncheerful

ta keir for trying it for us !:D i cant afford to spend too much on brushes so the thread is great...assuming i get the right brush out of it....maybe a slight spelling mistake on there ..not that i very good as i have to use chrome spell checker or else i spell just like good old tenchy.

 

A duel is an arranged engagement in combat between two individuals, with matched weapons in accordance with agreed-upon rules.

 

dual . Composed of two usually like or complementary parts

 

but hey at least i went to your web site:thumbsup:

 

maybe its for a brush off type fight as in whose is the best....

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RiceRocket

My only mild bug bear with the new extreme range is the splay of the bristles allows the stock to close to the window, so its easy to bang and clang on the frames whereas the original extremes just sit a few mm higher off the glass and therefore you can be a bit more indiscriminate with brushing

Buy the Gardiner Brush Bumper :)

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keir

Got one for each of the new style extreme's, took them off within three windows!!

 

Nowt wrong with them as such, just i found them too grippy on the sills as i sweep across.

I know,.... i know well use a sill brush.......yes i have one but i can keep the sills clean with an extreme alot easier than wielding a sill brush about.

Only way i can explain why i prefer not to use the bumpers is lets say its like wearing a rubber johnny compared to riding bare back hahaha

 

Also i am falling in love with the extreme hybrid, its a seriously seriously good brush. I have been highly impressed by its slug trail removal powers today, and on hydrophobic glass you can really feel the semi absorbent bristles gripping the window, and on both phyllic and phobic glass you can really see/feel the chemical type reaction happening where the pure water does its thing.

The tecbuk hybrid will have to be amazing to trump it, but i have to admit that i used it a couple of times the other week and was non plussed by it, but after i trimmed my older brushes and saw/felt the difference i gave the new ones the same treatment, i think this is what has turned it into a kick ass brush.

 

@Tuffers........do you swap brushes regularly? Recently i have been starting with say an extreme medium, but have the hybrid attached to my belt with the jet tubes then swap between as the day goes on. But that could any two brushes that i fancy, i just love swapping and find my favourite brush changes from day to day.

I think i am developing a fetish lmao

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Tuffers

@keir, funny you mentioned change of brushes. I have been using the dual trim flocked for a while with pencil jets on maintenance cleans. As it happens, I decided to try another brush today. It was the dual trim medium mixed with swivel neck, yes swivel neck and fan jets. I will be using the same tomorrow :) I may change the fans for pencils though if I get any signs of spotting.

I do find the swivel a PITA for brushing over the sills with though.

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tench0771

here is a pic of the new brush^^^^^ the person who posted this on a nother forum said it fiels liter than a gardener super lite!!!!! its got the quick lock fitted to

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Smurf

Whoever the chap is he bites his nails and has baby young hands... Therefore Sherlock smurf deduces he is in his late 20's early 30's and likes buying new toys. :D

 

I still don't get why that brush stock has not been reduced in length further as still looks longer than needed.:rolleyes:

 

here is a pic of the new brush^^^^^ the person who posted this on a nother forum said it fiels liter than a gardener super lite!!!!! its got the quick lock fitted to

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keir

Oooooooooooooh!!!!!!!! :specs:specs:specs

 

I liiiiiike that!!!!!! I'm proper looking forward to get my hands on mine, is that an ariel hybrid tench?

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Tuffers
Whoever the chap is he bites his nails and has baby young hands... Therefore Sherlock smurf deduces he is in his late 20's early 30's and likes buying new toys. :D

 

 

He also picks the skin round his nails. Of a nervous disposition too, I'd say :whistle:

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Richard
here is a pic of the new brush^^^^^ the person who posted this on a nother forum said it fiels liter than a gardener super lite!!!!! its got the quick lock fitted to

 

 

Thanks for putting those photos up; I do offer a stronger brush nut with a brass thread, used for that type of brush head brush.

 

 

The new Tecbuk brushes are lighter than the super-light brushes that Gardiner sell. The previous were about the same weight of the super-light, around 250g.

 

 

The new Tecbuk brushes are around 195g-210g, with an increased bristle cleaning area of 12%, from the previous Tecbuk brushes. All the brushes still have 7 rows of cleaning bristles and aprox 170 full knots of bristles, (unlike a stapled brush, which has only half knots)

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Smurf

Thank you Doctor Watson and going by your observation I would deduce he is also right handed too :D

 

He also picks the skin round his nails. Of a nervous disposition too, I'd say :whistle:

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keir

Fans for window cleaning eh tuffers? I cant use em for owt but pvc, it just seems to go everywhere.lol

 

As for the swivel, weird innit personal preference? When i used i fixed resi neck i had to use a sill brush, but with a swivel all i have to do is place an extreme or similar on the sill, twist the pole a tiny bit so the brush kicks out to a slight angle then swipe it across once or twice.

 

Another good reason for this is you can see like a bow wave of water coming off the sill which massively reduces the amount of drip splashage on the sill below onto the glass

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cheapncheerful

hmmm theres more to brushes than meets the eye...:rofl:keep it coming....i do have a question about brushes but i will wait a bit longer..

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keir
Thanks for putting those photos up; I do offer a stronger brush nut with a brass thread, used for that type of brush head brush.

 

 

The new Tecbuk brushes are lighter than the super-light brushes that Gardiner sell. The previous were about the same weight of the super-light, around 250g.

 

 

The new Tecbuk brushes are around 195g-210g, with an increased bristle cleaning area of 12%, from the previous Tecbuk brushes. All the brushes still have 7 rows of cleaning bristles and aprox 170 full knots of bristles, (unlike a stapled brush, which has only half knots)

 

Richard update your site bud, i would of bought one ages ago if i'd seen that, that stock looks very similar in dimensions to the extreme even and 195g's is not heavy whatsoever in fact i think thats just about right.

The new extreme's are a tad too lightweight, i preferred the original ones with the thicker stock with the built in scraper, that was useless lol

 

I am really looking forward to trying that bud, have you sent it yet?? Lol :thumbsup:

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Richard

Keir,

Much easier to add weight to your extreme brush, would be better to have 40g – 50g of more bristles if you do add weight.

 

 

I hope you get on with the brush, the Hybrids are around 210g and the DT Boars Brush are around 195g

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