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Smurf

This is the reason why i hate going to quote industrial units



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Diwrnach

No idea, good friend of mine is a boss at a hire firm..... which comes in handy :)

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rshandyman

I would do it even that it looks like a hard one as long as they can pay top dollar

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Jimroot

Was wondering how you'd handle the cash flow issue.

 

Any updates smurf?

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Smurf

Not as of yet but should have 2 quotes by end of play today and will let you know.

I can see it running into thousands though including my labour to do the job. However what other options do they have as there are no other safe access methods I would consider in this case due to the width of the path, type of ground & bank being in the way.

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Jimroot

Indeed. A new building will cost them more :-). I was imagining two days labour for £400, or am I cheap?

 

I'm setting up my 'manual kit' today, should have some pics to post later hopefully. Posted you a link smurf In your inbox

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Smurf

Well I've had one scaffold firm come back to me with an estimate of £2,000 - £2,500. The price will be dependant on a site visit. :rolleyes:

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Guest boarcity

id have quoted £5oo and had it done in a day . by the looks could have took off downpipe and pulled,wrestled it downwards then removed tree out the top . the difficult bit would be how the downpipe was held onto the wall , rusted bolts praps

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cheapncheerful

the trouble with jobs like this is....the not knowing factor...the hidden bits that lurk to turn it into a pain....:D

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Smurf

So how would you get to the guttering?

 

id have quoted £5oo and had it done in a day . by the looks could have took off downpipe and pulled,wrestled it downwards then removed tree out the top . the difficult bit would be how the downpipe was held onto the wall , rusted bolts praps

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Diwrnach

2 grand for a scaffold tower? can't you just hire one for a couple of hundred quid and do it yourself? I would.

 

I would get it done though one way or another, but not for that kind of money, I would be more in boars price range.

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Diwrnach
Guest boarcity
the trouble with jobs like this is....the not knowing factor...the hidden bits that lurk to turn it into a pain....:D

what would they be?

So how would you get to the guttering?

it looked like a ladder job, course i couldnt see how high it was but unless above house height id have used a ladder and possibly builders trowels to ladel out the muck . if you were scared of sideslip [of the ladder] praps id use a wide standoff, set above the gutter line

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Diwrnach

Why would you need scaffolding the entire length of the building?

 

If ladder is unusable due to ground etc as you say and a scaffolding is needed just use a tower and move it along as you go?

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Smurf

You would struggle to get to the inside of the guttering by ladders and not forgetting the uneven ground and mud.:D

 

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You would also struggle using a tower for the same reason plus you could not use outriggers on it as the gap is only 1m wide between the wall of the building and bank.

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Smurf

Also there is not point trying to clear the guttering when the roof in part is covered in **** too. Not to mention the other trees I've not shown in any pics growing up there in the guttering that would also need removing as well.

 

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Smurf

Anyway they have the option to find someone else to risk their neck but I'm fooked if I'm going to for the sake of cutting corners to keep the cost down. :rolleyes:

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Guest boarcity

roof looks flat enough to walk without risk of going over edge . course itd be slippy but id think you could shoot most of those rotten leaves straight over the side with a yard broom without going near edge . then on your knees scoop out gutters starting where its easy ,sideaways to gutter and gaining confidence on where to kneel as u go. id probably take up a big square cushion to kneel on to safe my knees

rather than a builders trowel im now thinking id use a plasterers float to rake along and scoop out with .using this tool would make sure you were positioned sideaways which would be much safer

 

i cant see any reason why not to use a ladder there either, if its muddy thatd be a real bonus as you could dig it in good . you could only use a regular ladder not one with a safety bar obviously .

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Smurf

So you don't take H&S seriously then @boarcity... What are you like :D

 

roof looks flat enough to walk without risk of going over edge . course itd be slippy but id think you could shoot most of those rotten leaves straight over the side with a yard broom without going near edge . then on your knees scoop out gutters starting where its easy ,sideaways to gutter and gaining confidence on where to kneel as u go. id probably take up a big square cushion to kneel on to safe my knees

rather than a builders trowel im now thinking id use a plasterers float to rake along and scoop out with .using this tool would make sure you were positioned sideaways which would be much safer

 

i cant see any reason why not to use a ladder there either, if its muddy thatd be a real bonus as you could dig it in good . you could only use a regular ladder not one with a safety bar obviously .

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Rascal

These sort of roofs often have harness points don't they?

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Rascal

I used to clean roofs smurf and always wore a harness. I am still confused about the actual LEGAL requirements of working at height. These books seem to be guidelines. Is it actually illegal to not use a fall arrest system when working on a roof? I did it for my safety not because of the law. I don't think I have ever seen a roofer with a harness on!!

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Jimroot

I bet life insurance, mortgage cover, sick pay even wouldnt pay out unless all the Ppe was worn.

 

Everyone I tell about my business idea seems to know someone who's either died or had a major injury from working at height.

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