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Do gutter vacs actually work?



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Jake

Yeah maybe just give it a go mate,

 

If your not comfortable on ladders then pretty much your only option is a vac and the elbow adaptor,

 

By the way the pro gutter tools don't get caught on the brackets as there designed to perfectly fit past them, also they do a half round one which is nice and small for those overlapping tiles...

 

You'll be ok with a vac mate, you just might go a bit mad :mad:

 

But if it doesn't work, you can always eBay it like you say!

 

Defo try the pro gutter angle adaptor though mate, I'm sure it'll work from the ground very well, you can always strap a camera to the pole after to see how clear it is...:thumbsup:

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Utterly Gutterly

Progutter won't go past internal brackets, Jake. See pic.:thumbsup:

 

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By the way the pro gutter tools don't get caught on the brackets as there designed to perfectly fit past them,

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Trev81

Once skilled with a gutter vac it's miles faster than messing about on a ladder with a small tool on the end of a harris pole, I started off my business doing just gutters and invested in a vac, carbon poles and inspection pole with camera etc etc, and I made sure I advertised it correctly, picked up plenty of work using it, I found many customers loved the idea and didn't mind paying a higher rate to have this machine clear their gutters (perhaps using the machine to charge a premium but so be it) using the customers power has never been a issue, many trades need customers power it's not even a consideration to them. However it did take some getting used to using it right, you can vac and think it's all out only to pop up the camera to find plenty missed, but with the various end tools you kinda get the grips with what works best for each type of guttering. I sell up on the service when doing F/S/G cleans and the mention of the vac system generally has the customer wanting it done while cleaning them so its like a double up on the initial job. Also a good thing to offer year round when other services dry up and no gutter under 40 feet for me is not doable. I doubt I could charge my rates using just a B&Q tool either, so think of it as a investment to charge a little extra on that service too.

 

the only time I ever use ladders is when guttering has little room between the roof tile or if there is a deep blockage in a down pipe, but many times I pull it out with the vac if you work at it enough! Always go after heavy rain if poss :)

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Jake
Progutter won't go past internal brackets, Jake. See pic.:thumbsup:

 

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Ah yes! I was confusing them with the brackets that slightly lap over the gutter!

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Guest MrBump

You angel trev81, that's just what i wanted to hear :thumbs: Looks like I will be getting one over the next week :D

 

What gutter vac do you use? Just want to get an idea of what will work, don't want to waste money on a super duper vac machine of a little one will do just fine :thumbsup:

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Jake

I'll take on trev in a gutter clerking race, hands down ladders will win 9 out of 10 times :cool:

 

But yeah, let us know which one you get mate, I'm sure it'll be great

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Guest MrBump

You have internet! Haha. Been past your way today and had no reception from here to lands end! :eek:

 

Don't race, rushing around on ladders is a risk and you could slip whereas trev will be safe and sound on the ground :laugh:

 

I'm leaning towards the skyvac atom as its not bad value for all the cf poles, adapters and vac for under 500+vat, but the vac is only 1200w, not sure how much difference actual wattage makes though. If not then the guttersuckers the next cheapest at around 800+ and more powerful. Unless anyone can recommend a tried and tested quality vac? ;)

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Tuffers
You have internet! Haha. Been past your way today and had no reception from here to lands end! :eek:

 

Don't race, rushing around on ladders is a risk and you could slip whereas trev will be safe and sound on the ground :laugh:

 

I'm leaning towards the skyvac atom as its not bad value for all the cf poles, adapters and vac for under 500+vat, but the vac is only 1200w, not sure how much difference actual wattage makes though. If not then the guttersuckers the next cheapest at around 800+ and more powerful. Unless anyone can recommend a tried and tested quality vac? ;)

 

A 3000w vac struggles to lift some imbedded grass and the like, so a 1200w will struggle more. Save up and buy the best if you're serious about buying one. Trev made a good point when he said that it makes you look more professional using a vac. A JCB digging your drive up or a gang wielding pick axes? Hmm....

 

People see that you have invested heavily in tools for the job like vacs and are impressed, but IMO vacs don't always cut it and using the progutter tools is quicker.

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Tuffers

I picked up a gutter job tonight and I'll use the ladders, no more than an hours work and quoted £70, got it and got their windows for £15 at 8 weekly. I'd take half an hour longer pi55ing about with the vac on that job.

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Guest MrBump

Well the best it would seem would be a full blown skyvac industrial 85 with 3000w and 150" lift, but at £2,000+ I'm not that serious about it :laugh: I have a good 4/5 people asking me for quotes already which I'm 99% I will get all of them at my min. price of £100, for any less its not really worth all the hassle. So say 2hrs per job, hourly rate seems worth all the pissing about for me. Not quite as good as your £70 hourly rate though :D And one job will be double as its huge, I prefer dawdling from one job to the next :rofl: So they will pay for the vac (if I get a more reasonably priced one) for a days work and then any others from then on will be profit.

 

I'll get the progutter tools too and stick them on a hooked pole so if I have to I can scoop and slide from the ground with them to assist the vac.

 

My ladders not big enough and my elbows spanked so vacs my only viable option. Just need to make sure I get one that'll do the job. From what I gather theres alot they can do, just maybe harder/slower and the few they can't I guess I will just have to improvise. I'll have a look around for some more powerful vacs within my budget (preferably under £800, max a grand but cheaper the better).

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norm

i would advice you to have a set of ladders long enough with you to reach any gutters your cleaning as back up until you are as skilled as @Trev81 using a vac as he even needs them occasionally

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Guest MrBump

Cheers Norm but I have no room for them. I'll just have to practice alot and learn fast :rock:

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neil fearnley

I agree with trev once you get the hang of it,its a doddle

I've done hundreds of vac jobs and never once been up a ladder

My vac is only 1400w and its fine

I recently sold my 3000w vac coz it was a nightmare to move around

I made all my own attachments for limited space and clearing elbows

Don't buy a kit,get on eBay and buy the bits separate

As for removing large embedded sods I made some hooks and lift/flick them out

 

I don't use a camera anymore what I do is go along removing as much as I can,then I change the angle and go back,then change it and go back the other way

I find this method removes everything a vac will

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Diwrnach

I love my gutter vac! I have done some massive houses that would of been impossible off ladders.

 

Now, a really easy access semi will be a toss up which is faster, but anything even remotely difficult access vac is far and away better, the only time I get the ladder off is if downpipes are blocked badly or stuff is growing under the tiles and needs yanking out.

 

As for stuff getting stuck under the tile, its hard to explain but you wiggle the pole forwards and backwards making the end point under the tiles, if that makes sense? not sure how else to describe it, this will get the shit under the tile.

 

For tiles overlapping the gutter a lot I have an end which is crushed pretty narrow, if that doesn't fir then pro gutter tools most certainly wont so you would be reduced to doing it all by hand, but I am yet to get a gutter my vac hasn't fitted in, if they overlapped more then they wouldn't be working anyway.

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Guest MrBump

Thanks Neil and diwrnach, these are just the kind of confidence invoking replies I was looking for :D Now I'm actually excited to get one and start using it! I will definatley be back visiting this thread a few times to remind myself of all the great advice on here.

 

Neil, glad to hear no ladders required a hook will clear any tough bits :thumbsup:

 

Diwrnach what vac do you use out of interest?

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Trev81
You angel trev81, that's just what i wanted to hear :thumbs: Looks like I will be getting one over the next week :D

 

What gutter vac do you use? Just want to get an idea of what will work, don't want to waste money on a super duper vac machine of a little one will do just fine :thumbsup:

 

Keep a eye on this it might end up going for a steal http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SkyVac-Gutter-Cleaning-Machine-/321843352720?hash=item4aef5bd490

 

I went for the SkyVac system in the end with the 8 carbon poles but blagged a extra so got 9, I haggled on the phone and got a decent enough deal, yes expensive but it's a tool that should last many a year looked after correctly and the earnings far outway the initial cost which is of course tax deductible, the end tools aint the best but doubt there much to replace once a year or so, if anybody has any links to end tools that will fit it I'd be interested as some of mine are a bit well used now so might replace a few.

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Diwrnach

The tools it comes with are all pretty handy, especially the 90 degree angle one, you can get under any really stuck sods and pull them out, has come in really handy several times over conservatories etc where you couldn't physically get to it anyway.

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Trev81

Mine came in handy for this conservatory valet last week, long 25ft rear channel gutter only really accessible from the one side, vac made the job a breeze!

 

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Guest MrBump

Trev I looked on ebay the other day and found nothing, so cheers for that. At that price I'll take it :D Feel free to edit and remove that link so someone else on here don't bump my price up ;):rofl:

 

Diwrnach I saw that one a while ago when I was looking before but couldn't find it again so cheers, they look good.

 

Trev looks like your on a ladder for that one lol, but vaccing just seems so much cleaner and less likely to make a mess outside or around the gutter to me, I could be totally wrong though.

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Diwrnach
Mine came in handy for this conservatory valet last week, long 25ft rear channel gutter only really accessible from the one side, vac made the job a breeze!

 

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Careful of that samsquanch!

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Trev81
Trev I looked on ebay the other day and found nothing, so cheers for that. At that price I'll take it :D Feel free to edit and remove that link so someone else on here don't bump my price up ;):rofl:

 

Diwrnach I saw that one a while ago when I was looking before but couldn't find it again so cheers, they look good.

 

Trev looks like your on a ladder for that one lol, but vaccing just seems so much cleaner and less likely to make a mess outside or around the gutter to me, I could be totally wrong though.

 

Yes on a step ladder @MrBump lol! I saw it as the only way to do that gutter, pulling it all back with a tool on a stick would of pulled it up and over on to the freshly cleaned glass roof that took me bloody ages to clean!

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Guest MrBump

I was going to ask if you cleaned the conservatory! It looks brand new :thumbsup:

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norm
Cheers Norm but I have no room for them. I'll just have to practice alot and learn fast :rock:

happy days

gutter clearing MrBump is on his way :thumbsup:

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