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D.I.Y Electric hose reel conversion for less than £50



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adamangler

Nevermind a fuse, you ll soon see if its on fire :1f44c:

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Dr Von Samstein

I guess the easiest way is to see if the fuse blows. My battery has an isolator switch and 10a fuse, if it works sounds like it's running at 7a, otherwise try a bigger fuse

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best
Any updated info on how these motorised reels are performing???


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Great, works great,
Just made a 2nd one used a 300w motor as I thought the 250w was slightly lacking in power. (2 man setup)
I personally would not go above 300w

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Mark H

Have to agree with best I have just completed a diy reel with 250w motor. Not quite enough power in my opinion. So just bought a 350w motor for our 2nd reel.
Best: Was there much difference on rpm and torque?


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Have to agree with best I have just completed a diy reel with 250w motor. Not quite enough power in my opinion. So just bought a 350w motor for our 2nd reel.
Best: Was there much difference on rpm and torque?


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Great, works great,
Just made a 2nd one used a 300w motor as I thought the 250w was slightly lacking in power. (2 man setup)
I personally would not go above 300w

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There was a big difference between the 2 motors.
But to be fair they were on 2 different types of reels
The 250w was on a petal type reel.
The 300w was on a claber reel.

I was considering putting the petal type reel on bearings to increase the movement, and hopefully get the most from the motor.

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adamangler

This doesnt seem right to me, how can a 350w 24v motor outperform a 250w 24v motor if the supply is only 12v?

 

surely if the 250w motor is only getting 12v then the way to increase its torque would be to supply it with 24v

 

but im not sure how wattage works in relation to voltage 

 

i have noticed with mine that it needs a fully charge battery to work well all day and owards the end of the day it is slowing a bit, it really needs 24v imo.

 

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peter rogers

u cud always run the reel direct from battery       van        but wen reelin in turn van on first       only a idea

 

 

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Mark H

I have changed my 250w DIY reel motor to a 350w motor and found a big difference in torque and speed.
With the 250w motor connected, as test, I pulled the hose out around corner of house approx 50ft. When reeling in it was slow also had to help hose along until it came around corner then the speed picked up enough to let go of hose.

Now with the 350w motor fitted, different ball game altogether. Could have pulled out more hose around corner and didn't need to help hose along when reeling in.
So pleased with mine and planning to get 2nd one fitted.

24v 250w motor is rated 14 amps
24v 350w motor rated 18.7 amps

We do have a split charger and never need to charge battery via mains, therefore we get a steady 12.5v every day, so topping up battery every time we move van.

I did fit one of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361905853471
But didn't find any difference in torque of speed. Don't know why?


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Dr Von Samstein

Wish I had heard this 2 days ago before I ordered 250v motor!

How can it use so much current to flatten a battery. Even if it pulls 30a, in a day how long is it being used for? 20 minutes on a big day? So 1/3 of 30a is 10 amps, hardly seems enough to make a difference to a big leisure battery...

But hearing everyone say this does make it seem it's a problem

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spruce
On 21/07/2017 at 14:11, adamangler said:

This doesnt seem right to me, how can a 350w 24v motor outperform a 250w 24v motor if the supply is only 12v?

 

surely if the 250w motor is only getting 12v then the way to increase its torque would be to supply it with 24v

 

but im not sure how wattage works in relation to voltage 

 

i have noticed with mine that it needs a fully charge battery to work well all day and owards the end of the day it is slowing a bit, it really needs 24v imo.

 

Half the voltage means half the speed and half the torque.

 

If you feed it with 24v the motor is too fast. Thre was a guy on the other forum that started this diy conversion. He connected 2 x 12v batteries together in series and said it is was too fast and too powerful.

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Dr Von Samstein

Got mine put together and working today. There's just a huge grin on my face and I reel it in. Just a few things to change now, I think I need to get a longer chain and a tensioner for the chain. With longer chain I can mount sprocket in better location and fix motor to the bench

 

I love it in the day but it's at night it really comes alive customer I put some blue LEDs in too!

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Dr Von Samstein

I don't have a chain tensioner, that's version 2.0

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Skxawng

very nice, do you think you'll need hose guides?

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Iron Giant
13 hours ago, Sam Peden said:

Got mine put together and working today. There's just a huge grin on my face and I reel it in. Just a few things to change now, I think I need to get a longer chain and a tensioner for the chain. With longer chain I can mount sprocket in better location and fix motor to the bench

 

I love it in the day but it's at night it really comes alive customer I put some blue LEDs in too!

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Looks a really good set up with shelf and lights 

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Dr Von Samstein

How are your hose reels? I added a tensioner to mine and it's loads better now, chain never comes off. 

 

Anyone manage age to add rc to it? Do you think this would work? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-4CH-Channel-200M-Wireless-Remote-Control-Relay-Switch-Transceiver-Receiver/131730091890?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150313114020%26meid%3D465fce37811c40cb9ad4a24565376a14%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D30%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D322701991959&_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726 

 

I don't really know what I'm doing with this but would love to try so I can reel in as I walk back to the van

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peter rogers
21 hours ago, Sam Peden said:

How are your hose reels? I added a tensioner to mine and it's loads better now, chain never comes off. 

 

Anyone manage age to add rc to it? Do you think this would work? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-4CH-Channel-200M-Wireless-Remote-Control-Relay-Switch-Transceiver-Receiver/131730091890?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150313114020%26meid%3D465fce37811c40cb9ad4a24565376a14%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D30%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D322701991959&_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726 

 

I don't really know what I'm doing with this but would love to try so I can reel in as I walk back to the van

what tenisoner

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johnny bravo

Adam can i put my XMAS order in.    Great work.   Order every bit, send off as a diy set up and make a few ££££££,  id order one,   simple instructions to set up

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johnny bravo

can you use this fob for your controller system for your water on / off from an ,      one shot i think

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johnny bravo

this WFP method ,   you will soon need  engineering quallifications if applying for a job.      all you needed the old days was a ladder and a bucket  Oh yes a BLACK one,       now from the pound shop.      LOL

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Nudel
On 13.9.2017 at 17:59, Sam Peden said:

How are your hose reels? I added a tensioner to mine and it's loads better now, chain never comes off. 

 

Anyone manage age to add rc to it? Do you think this would work? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-4CH-Channel-200M-Wireless-Remote-Control-Relay-Switch-Transceiver-Receiver/131730091890?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150313114020%26meid%3D465fce37811c40cb9ad4a24565376a14%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D30%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D322701991959&_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726 

 

I don't really know what I'm doing with this but would love to try so I can reel in as I walk back to the van

The relays on that remote can only handle a current load or 10a which might not be enough for your motor? 

 

It should work fine otherwise though. It can be set to momentary action. Just be careful you don't reel it in accidentally if you have the remote in your pocket. :1f602:

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dave83

just built my own electric remote reel.

 

winding in is not a problem but winding out it is too fast and the hose comes off the reel.

 

Did anyone else have this problem, and how did you get round it.

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Nudel

You aren't supposed to run the motor when reeling out, surely? Or do I misunderstand the concept?

 

With the correct gearing there should be no issues pulling the hose out manually.

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