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Chemical confusion

MCM

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I am new to softwashing and tried using Monty Miracle solution looks great on you tube but I am not getting the same results.

I dont know where I am going wrong its pre mixed but my jobs are not ending as clean as I like.

I apply it from a 5l pressure sprayer wait 10 minutes and then rinse, has anyone used this before or have any pointers?

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stop using the monty solution mate,i've seen him first hand on a job-he's local to me.

I went up to him posing as a window cleaner-as you do,he told me all about monty etc,anyway how he got away with a payment I just don't know in all honesty.

you could do a whole lot better just using benz blackwash and I think its cheaper too

recent work with blackwash to see if the finished clean is what/where you want to be.

everything you see here was cleaned with blackwash,i think it was about £55.00 worth of the stuff or 20litres from their website,

nowadays I don't even think of using hypo and a surfactant as this stuff-well judge for yourself,i've no before photos as I rarely take them nowadays,i feel if i'm asked to clean something then its dirty,the finished results are the important thing to me-bin the monty mate

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Cheers Kevin250 I will try the Blackwash some great pictures there, only thing that puts me off is delivery states someone has to be home or rhey dont deliver and then recharge for delivery, if I am on a job I cant be home to sign.

Are they as strict as the website says with delivery?

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All blackwash is, is hypo and soap with 10% chlorine rather than 15% chlorine. The shelf life would be a problem when it begins to break down. Probably cheaper making your own with sodium hypochlorite and surfactant which will have an infinite shelf life before one mixes it. You will find a lot of things in life are the same but just dressed up differently to flog them. :1f609:

 
Hypo has a short shelf life whether blackwash or normal hypo unopened

It is the nature of the chemical

It will break down slowly once made and faster in hotter weather and when opened

 
Cheers Kevin250 I will try the Blackwash some great pictures there, only thing that puts me off is delivery states someone has to be home or rhey dont deliver and then recharge for delivery, if I am on a job I cant be home to sign.

Are they as strict as the website says with delivery?

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its delivered by dpd,so you can via text get a delivery to a shop near you for collection if you want or my preferred one is just to ask them to leave it in the back garden-works for me,two days fom ordering to delivery means I only keep what I will use for that week,also it always fresh new stock so no old stuff losing strength by the week.

 
Most hypo has a shelf life of between 6-8 months from the labels of the stuff we use , I did a job back in January at -2 degrees using 3 month out of date hypo from an half used drum and it worked fine at usual dilution rate so not sure that the shelf life or use by date is accurate 

 
In reply to Kevin, my company tells all our customers, if they are not happy, they don't pay, it's that simple. To date, I have never had a client refuse payment so, I'm really not sure what you're referring to but, it is damaging to peoples reputation when you're mentioned here like this and, there was no need to be dishonest about who you are, I always answer any questions anyone has regardless of who they pose to be, I spend a great deal of time with my Trade Users, helping them to get their business just right and have a very good relationship with all of them, all of which are making a very healthy living from using Monty Solution. With regards to MCM, it sounds to me as if you're using the pre dilute Monty and not the concentrate, you have far more scope with the concentrate because you can strengthen it or take it right out to 8:1 on some jobs but, the office are always on hand to help and, give out my mobile number so you can contact me at anytime with any issues you're having. We work hard to get the right results every time and that's what I'm here for. There is no trickery to the videos.

Finally, I'm not here to put any bodies business down so, if Benz v's Monty is the product which will work best for your business, go for it but, please think twice on these forums before slating peoples business Kevin, I have spent four years and an extortionate amount of money on a Patent Pending for my solution after all, the majority did vote to be united and now more than ever, will we need British inventions, growth and networks. Best of luck and much success to you all. Martin Beaumont - Monty Miracle Ltd.

 
i'm in the doody again,so it seems,you'll be glad to hear though, I've lost no sleep over this,i must admit that I should have been more honest when I first saw you working-my fault and I do apologise for that,with referral  to my comment about how you got away with payment-I guess I just have to learn that people have different levels of what they think is acceptable to them my bad and i'll try and work on that in the future,

yes this is a public forum and anyone can/could see this,the second anyone mentions monty miracle cleaning solutions,google would flag this up-I do recall a few years ago on ciu there comments (and I recall those comments were not positive ones but that's ciu and most threads have some form of negativity about them on there) went to the top of page one on google so I can see why you are a bit sensitive about this martin.

mcm cleaning specialists in his or her original post mentioned that they were not getting the results that they expected from monty miracle

and you did say martin that it was possible that the dilute version was ordered,£28.95 is quite a lot to pay for a 5 litre diluted ready to use bottle when for £52.71 you can buy benz and dilute that to 100 litres and more,and no i'm not wanting to get into a benz/monty miracle solutions debate just saying that your product seems to be aimed at the domestic market where higher mark up or margins can be made as opposed to trade users.

with reference to the pump up pressure sprayers,if that's the only equipment you have to hand or have just be very very carefull with them,just by the way you use them you have to bend over and pump the stystem up to pressurise them if you over pressurise then the pressure relief valve will open and spray whatever you have in the bottle all over your face-it happened last week to chris a guy local to me hypo in his eyes etc and a trip to a&e he was lucky that day he didn't get blinded.

 
I think many people are making this softwashing to complicated. All the bleach does is react with the lichen so that it loses the grip on the stone or wood then it can be washed away or am I missing something?

 
a friend of mine tryed monty and he said its not as good as the conways soft wash solutions biocide  he does a lot of roof cleaning using biocide he has tryed them all he also rates benz bio over algoclear pro 

 

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