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Den

Have justed ordered the low pressure rinse bar it as 16 mircro jets instead of 32 micro jets on the normal version I will update when I get it and tried out. 

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paul alan

I have recently been sent the new half pressure version of the rinse bar and it is awesome.

 

There is a learning curve to these rinse bars and swivels, I have been swivelling for years now and can't use without.

 

The new rinse bar has tonnes of pressure and jets up above the brush, I personally still have to raise it up above the stock to get a clear unobstructed rinse which I have found is vital to a spot-free finish. I did trial the rinse bar with the jets hitting the back of the bristles, and while it was much easier to use like that, I was getting spotting in the middle of the glass. When I looked properly I could see that the water was hitting the back of the bristles and flowing down to the back of the stock, mostly missing the glass.

 

The clear problem for me is most brushes are not designed for rinse bars, the bristles are generally too long and obstruct the rinse with minimal pressure on the glass.

 

So, I bought a constructor brush.....

 

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Den
33 minutes ago, paul alan said:

I have recently been sent the new half pressure version of the rinse bar and it is awesome.

 

There is a learning curve to these rinse bars and swivels, I have been swivelling for years now and can't use without.

 

The new rinse bar has tonnes of pressure and jets up above the brush, I personally still have to raise it up above the stock to get a clear unobstructed rinse which I have found is vital to a spot-free finish. I did trial the rinse bar with the jets hitting the back of the bristles, and while it was much easier to use like that, I was getting spotting in the middle of the glass. When I looked properly I could see that the water was hitting the back of the bristles and flowing down to the back of the stock, mostly missing the glass.

 

The clear problem for me is most brushes are not designed for rinse bars, the bristles are generally too long and obstruct the rinse with minimal pressure on the glass.

 

So, I bought a constructor brush.....

 

Cheers Paul, I remember you trialing 5he rinsebar and sharinginfo with me which was well receivedthats why I resurrected this thread I’m planning to use this with my extreme brush so hopefully clear the bristles. 

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Den

Also have noticed that the Angle as been set slightly highlyon the low pressure version so hopefully clear the bristles a bit easier. 

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paul alan
10 hours ago, Den said:

Also have noticed that the Angle as been set slightly highlyon the low pressure version so hopefully clear the bristles a bit easier. 

Yes it does clear the bristles much better, the extreme has the lowest and straightest bristle profile of all the Gardiner brushes I have so is probably your best chance at getting a clear rinse. Alex did recommend the medium mixed ultimate as it doesn't collapse so easily, I have tried that brush and it does hold its integrity well.

 

I have been using the rinse bar on the tucker dual trim and that works very well with the rinse bar, even though I still have to raise it about 1/2" above the stock which doesn't look very aesthetic but works.

 

You have one of those situations where you have to really slow down your technique when rinse bar'ing, but... you're going to be going home earlier still!

 

I am a fussy window cleaner and can't stand to leave a spot anywhere, the rinse bar has been able to knock an hour of a 7 hour day for me whilst using less water. It is a bit weird that you are rinsing and scrubbing in one and I have had to get my head around it (still am). I do check my results though wherever possible and find that it leaves a fantastic finish when done right.

 

It will get frustrating, after a week or two you should start getting used to it. I think in a month or two you'll be an expert at it. You'll experience better results, faster, whilst using much less effort. I would say practice on your own windows at home for an hour or two before taking it out in the field, try not to use under any pressure (like a big day where you have to get finished quick) and SLOW DOWN! You'll have to use your noggin for this one!

10 hours ago, Den said:

Cheers Paul, I remember you trialing 5he rinsebar and sharinginfo with me which was well receivedthats why I resurrected this thread I’m planning to use this with my extreme brush so hopefully clear the bristles. 

If I can find the time, I will do you a video of what I have learned so far mate.

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Den

Brilliant that would be much appreciated. 👍

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Den

Received my rinsebar today have installed on my medium ultimate as you suggested  @paul alan tried on my own house so far It seems really good and impressed, my windows have vents and it cleans above and under them without filling the vents up (which was a concern but now I know is nothing tow worry about)I have set it up so it’s slightly above the bristles but only just using the same flow rate as the 100 degree jets. 

Was going to set up on my DuPont extreme still might  even though the bristles are short think the splay might be a little too much will experiment over the weekend. 

I don’t own an extreme medium hybrid but think that brush would be more suited for the rinsebar. 

 

Tomorrow my my son is going to put it thru it’s paces but I will give it a good go as well 😄

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Den

havnt had a chance to give the rinsebar full day yet as I cancelled Fridays work due to high winds and heavy rain, played about with it today again today on my own house for approx 20 minutes and can honestly say even in a short time that this is a great bit of kit.

 

set it up on a ultimate medium approx 13mm above the stock, jets just over the bristles measured flowrate at 1.5lpm feels like more though and rinses perfectly albeit my windows were already clean lol can't weight to try out on my 4 and 8 weekly. 

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paulwills

Got one of these on Thursday so only had Friday to work with it , but seems a great time and water saver , technique needs to b changed for certain windows but that doesn’t bother me aslong as the finish is good and the working week is shorter


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Den
19 minutes ago, paulwills said:

Got one of these on Thursday so only had Friday to work with it , but seems a great time and water saver , technique needs to b changed for certain windows but that doesn’t bother me aslong as the finish is good and the working week is shorter


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 Received mine Thursday but didn’t work Friday my son will be using it tomorrow and I also received a 35cm for testing that I will be using tomorrow on a 35cm medium natural hybrid extreme.

 

I have used both the 26cm and 35cm rinsebars on my own house yesterday I spent a little time setting them up so they slightly rinse above the bristles and what I think is the best flow without going of the top with water usage. 

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Left word ‘extreme’ out

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