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Hi guys, newbie here

 

How do you guys price domestic jobs, £1 per window and £2 for big stuff? All my quotes seem to get a negative response for being too expensive

 

Also, how many houses/windows do you get done in an average 8 hour day? Obviously depends on the round but looking into how much canvassing I'm going to need to do.

 

Thanks

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1 hour ago, jimmystevens said:

Hi guys, newbie here

 

How do you guys price domestic jobs, £1 per window and £2 for big stuff? All my quotes seem to get a negative response for being too expensive

 

Also, how many houses/windows do you get done in an average 8 hour day? Obviously depends on the round but looking into how much canvassing I'm going to need to do.

 

Thanks

 

Pricing will vary from area to area even in the south where prices are better than they are up here in the north.

 

Pricing is all about what a customer's perception of what the job is worth and how desperately they need you. Price too high and they will retain your services for a bit and then dump you, possibily when someone cheaper comes along.

 

I've never found the pricing per window works as it gets very confusing keeping a running tally in your head especially when you are being followed around by the customer talking.

 

When starting up we tried to understand what fellow window cleaners were charging for a standard 3 bed semi. Then we would add a bit for access issues and more for a conservatory. We had a rough price for a small, medium and large conservatory and added that to the house clean. Then we would try to roll the price up. So a £14.00 job became a £15.00 quote. A £17.00 estimate became a £20.00 quote.

 

The advice I got was that if you got about 40% of the quotes you gave then you would be about right. If you got 60% then you could be under pricing. If you are getting all the quotes then you are too cheap but if you get none then you are too expensive.

 

So when starting off you really need to ask a fellow window cleaner what the going rate is for a 3 bed semi. Most window cleaners would be happy to share that info with you if you add that you don't want to be an under cutter.

 

Pricing could also depend on your needs. So if you have to get a customer base quickly, then you might consider quoting lower to get your foot in the proverbial door. Once you start to get your round established and you gain a reputation, then you would increase prices gradually in small increments.

 

How much canvassing will you need to do? Depends on the area and the satuation of window cleaners covering that area. Canvassing is a numbers game in the same way sales is a numbers game. You could go out and spend 3 hours canvassing and get no response. You could then go out the following evening and get lots of new customers.

 

When I first started I aimed for 16 to 18 only 3 bed semies a day maintenance cleans before running out of water. I was younger in those days. (First cleans take much longer so you need to charge extra for that first clean.) That's 2 to 3 an hour in summer. In our area, we found that customers are sensitive to time taken and price charged. They tend to judge a quality clean by the length of time it takes. When son in law cleaned with us I got a few complaints he wasn't cleaning properly as he went through the work like a dose of salts. Every inspection of the complaint was unfounded as the windows were spotless.

 

We now have that work covered by a young couple who are also very fast. But they don't do a good job unfortunately.

 

The number of customers you need will also depend on your clean frequency. If you clean every 4 weeks then you will need a smaller customer base than if you cleaned every 8 weeks for example. I would suggest you offer 4 and 8 weeks period. Charge more for 8 weeks than for 4 weeks, say 50% more.

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, spruce said:

 

Pricing will vary from area to area even in the south where prices are better than they are up here in the north.

 

Pricing is all about what a customer's perception of what the job is worth and how desperately they need you. Price too high and they will retain your services for a bit and then dump you, possibily when someone cheaper comes along.

 

I've never found the pricing per window works as it gets very confusing keeping a running tally in your head especially when you are being followed around by the customer talking.

 

When starting up we tried to understand what fellow window cleaners were charging for a standard 3 bed semi. Then we would add a bit for access issues and more for a conservatory. We had a rough price for a small, medium and large conservatory and added that to the house clean. Then we would try to roll the price up. So a £14.00 job became a £15.00 quote. A £17.00 estimate became a £20.00 quote.

 

The advice I got was that if you got about 40% of the quotes you gave then you would be about right. If you got 60% then you could be under pricing. If you are getting all the quotes then you are too cheap but if you get none then you are too expensive.

 

So when starting off you really need to ask a fellow window cleaner what the going rate is for a 3 bed semi. Most window cleaners would be happy to share that info with you if you add that you don't want to be an under cutter.

 

Pricing could also depend on your needs. So if you have to get a customer base quickly, then you might consider quoting lower to get your foot in the proverbial door. Once you start to get your round established and you gain a reputation, then you would increase prices gradually in small increments.

 

How much canvassing will you need to do? Depends on the area and the satuation of window cleaners covering that area. Canvassing is a numbers game in the same way sales is a numbers game. You could go out and spend 3 hours canvassing and get no response. You could then go out the following evening and get lots of new customers.

 

When I first started I aimed for 16 to 18 only 3 bed semies a day maintenance cleans before running out of water. (First cleans take much longer so you need to charge extra for that first clean.) That's 2 to 3 an hour in summer. In our area, we found that customers are sensitive to time taken and price charged. They tend to judge a quality clean by the length of time it takes. When son in law cleaned with us I got a few complaints he wasn't cleaning properly as he went through the work like a dose of salts. Every inspection of the complaint was unfounded as the windows were spotless.

 

We now have that work covered by a young couple who are also very fast. But they don't do a good job unfortunately.

 

The number of customers you need will also depend on your clean frequency. If you clean every 4 weeks then you will need a smaller customer base than if you cleaned every 8 weeks for example. I would suggest you offer 4 and 8 weeks period. Charge more for 8 weeks than for 4 weeks, say 50% more.

 

 

 

Thank you very much for your reply, there's one large company with 6 or so franchisee's and a couple of smaller companies in my town so I'll have a ring round to guage pricing.

56 minutes ago, tnwindowcleaning said:

Where are you based?

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South East, most expensive part of the country

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Welcome to the show & sorry to hear it’s not straightforward for you, i don’t think it was easy for any of us starting. You keep canvassing until your books are full really. The weird stage is when you have about half your diary full, people start asking for the extras, and then you need to think, do i want to be a windows only guy, or do i want to do add ons? Some people like ad ons, some dont. Personally i favour them as i would get really bored just doing windows all the time & like to mix it up a bit.
Our work is split 50-50 so usually 2 or 3 days a week on the windows and 2-3 days are ad-ons. I really dont think we could find enough customers to get by if we stuck to windows only, the market is so saturated.
If i was starting out now, i really would be focussing on ad-ons. Window cleaners seem to pop out of the woodwork these days. new guys rise and fall every year, they don’t really pose a threat to us but they do drag the market price down because they will clean all round for a tenner, fronts only for a fiver etc, last for 18 months and jack it in. You could probably get those prices in the 1990’s. a lot of windy’s dont raise their prices either, so they stay too static. I’ve recently priced up a few houses to take over from long standing window cleaners who’ve retired or packed it in. One had been cleaning a large detached house with a roof lantern on a flat roof for over 10 years and had always charged £12 never putting the price up. I priced it up at £40 for maintenance cleaning as they were already in good nick & the customer wasn’t interested. If it was a first clean price he probably would have passed out.
The vast majority of the public don’t value window cleaning for these reasons as they are used to “come and go” guys & low prices. You can get £60 for the average gutter clearance and take an hour maybe? with a Vac. You can also spend well in excess of an hour doing first cleans on windows but try & get £60 for it.
A lot of guys coming in now are focussing on ad-ons only (gutters, pressure washing etc) can’t say i blame them to be honest. Best of luck mate, hope you get some work soon




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I also should add that an average 3 bed semi in our neck of the woods could be around £8 to £10. We found we have lost a few £10 accounts but haven't lost as many £8 jobs.

 

Go a couple of miles further east and pricing is around £5 to £6 for a 3 bed semi. @Part Timerwill tell you that there are windies in his part of the world also charging £5. For that price customers still expect a Rolls Royce clean.

They perceive that at £5 you are earning £15 an hour, well above the minimum wage they might be working for, and, after all, we are only window cleaners.

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5 hours ago, jimmystevens said:

Hi guys, newbie here

 

How do you guys price domestic jobs, £1 per window and £2 for big stuff? All my quotes seem to get a negative response for being too expensive

 

Also, how many houses/windows do you get done in an average 8 hour day? Obviously depends on the round but looking into how much canvassing I'm going to need to do.

 

Thanks

 

What frequency are you offering? If you're getting a negative response for a 4 weekly clean why not offer them an 8 weekly clean at the same price (or at the same price plus £2). It'll effectively cut the cost of window cleaning by half for the customer and 8 weekly cleans are usually just as quick to do as 4 weekly.

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£8.00 for a older style 3 bed house is easily doable in the North East so in Kent it should be no problem, I charge £0.70 per window for a small to average size window £1.40 for patio doors or a bay window sometimes I add a bit extra on sometimes I shave a little off. But typically lads around my area are charging quite a bit less than me.

But on modern houses which are getting smaller in some cases it's different I charge £10.00 for a 4 bed detached but these can be done in 15 minutes and a lot of my work is compact typically 5+ houses in the same street next door to each other or near enough 

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Just look on the websites. 

 

In the South East you have Pryors - he has prices on his web site. 

 

In the South you have JRH and Perfect Windows. Both again have priced on their sites. 

 

We have prices on ours. 

 

We used to close 70% of quotes but now closer to 50%.  

 

Only change we made is that we insist that they sign up for Direct Debit before a first cleaning. 

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