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I had a nice gutter job today or so I thought. Going along the cast iron gutter with my vac and couldn't help thinking something wasn't right. At one point I had to go up the ladder and bolt a joint together again. That's when I noticed an aerial cable lying in the full length of the gutter. Never understood why folk do such a thing. 

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Diamond geezer

They do it to cause a resistance,so that the dirt wont flow away properly then they can say"of course we look after our local gutter cleaner".

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Part Timer
On ‎10‎/‎02‎/‎2019 at 18:27, scottish cleaning service said:

I had a nice gutter job today or so I thought. Going along the cast iron gutter with my vac and couldn't help thinking something wasn't right. At one point I had to go up the ladder and bolt a joint together again. That's when I noticed an aerial cable lying in the full length of the gutter. Never understood why folk do such a thing. 

Cosmetic reasons, their customer wouldn't like to see it hanging down so rather than fasten it out of sight along the back edge of the gutter they run it along the gutter. We had 4 separate cables in one gutter in Gosport, that was a nightmare. 

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Part timer,i don't have a machine yet,and would consider doing a side entry but the lift on the sky vac industrial is impressive,i cant afford one though.My research is the lift of the atom is 110" the Grippa max102"unsure about the lift of the cheaper vacs that benefit from side entry.

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28 minutes ago, Diamond geezer said:

Part timer,i don't have a machine yet,and would consider doing a side entry but the lift on the sky vac industrial is impressive,i cant afford one though.My research is the lift of the atom is 110" the Grippa max102"unsure about the lift of the cheaper vacs that benefit from side entry.

I would buy a Kiam and convert it to a side entry. Probably cost you circa £500 including side entry conversion 

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3 minutes ago, Part Timer said:

I would buy a Kiam and convert it to a side entry. Probably cost you circa £500 including side entry conversion 

 

Yes, buy a Maxblast for £200 and convert it to a side entry for a ton from Spinaclean. Doing a big gutter clear on Monday and the woman wants me to full the gutters with that hedgehog thing. I told her they were **** but didn't have the answer why? Is it to do with blocking up the gutter with debris? Thanks

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I clear a customers gutters.They get totally full of dry leaves,the trees over hang you see.I told him about the hedge hog,he didn't like the initial cost.Prices have come down now,and iam shure it would stop the leaves,making real economic sense for him.Dont fit them where there not necessary,only where theres a real problem with leaf fall!

                    Ok buy a kiam or maxi .Its going to have a bigger capacity,but maybe if youre only doing semis etc, you don't need so much.Or is it about air flow,userbility and longjevity?You seem to be satisfied with yours.Earlier on in this subject,some one said u might struggle with turves and an Atom but if its got a slightly bigger lift than a Grippa,how can this be?Are the poles smaller on the Atom,diameter wise?

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My Vac can lift turfs of grass and my poles are 50mm carbon fiber. Not had any problem yet but its paid for itself. I personally think the Industrial Vac is overpriced but if you use it every week then its a must. Problem with our job is the consistency that's why many folk concentrate on windows.

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1 hour ago, scottish cleaning service said:

 

Yes, buy a Maxblast for £200 and convert it to a side entry for a ton from Spinaclean. Doing a big gutter clear on Monday and the woman wants me to full the gutters with that hedgehog thing. I told her they were **** but didn't have the answer why? Is it to do with blocking up the gutter with debris? Thanks

 

 

Gutter hedghogs get coverd in leaves and other debris then seedsget on them and the whole lot grows like a6 feet long piece of turf , you can  hook them out of the gutter with a gutter hook but it makes a hell of a mess down the walls of the house , it’s far easier to vac out the gutters once a year or every couple of years , we have removed literally hundreds of meters of the stuff over the years 

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Thanks for the insight PJJ.Scottish cleaning servicesWhat do you mean exactly by

25 minutes ago, scottish cleaning service said:

. Problem with our job is the consistency that's why many folk concentrate on windows.

Thanks

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Time it takes to get your money back. Buy a £20 squeegee and two jobs you will have your money back. I bought a £4k power washer and attachments and 8 months later I have only had half my money back. Bought a Maxblast and attachments which cost a grand but got my money back in 3 months. It all comes down to rate of return if I had bought a Spinaclean Industrial and attachments then I would be only half way there. Your first couple of years in this career all comes down to spending money on equipment. I have only been in this game for two years but now its all downhill because I have bought everything I need. I must have spent over a grand now on my website alone. Then there's the van and signage on the van, near two grand on that. In the end it all comes together and word of mouth takes precedence that's what I am noticing. I don't intend to over extend myself by taking too much work on and I'm not cheap anymore.

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38 minutes ago, scottish cleaning service said:

Time it takes to get your money back. Buy a £20 squeegee and two jobs you will have your money back. I bought a £4k power washer and attachments and 8 months later I have only had half my money back. Bought a Maxblast and attachments which cost a grand but got my money back in 3 months. It all comes down to rate of return if I had bought a Spinaclean Industrial and attachments then I would be only half way there. Your first couple of years in this career all comes down to spending money on equipment. I have only been in this game for two years but now its all downhill because I have bought everything I need. I must have spent over a grand now on my website alone. Then there's the van and signage on the van, near two grand on that. In the end it all comes together and word of mouth takes precedence that's what I am noticing. I don't intend to over extend myself by taking too much work on and I'm not cheap anymore.

As I said to you before its all relative, I paid £4k in October and by January I was in profit. 

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Yes I see now Scotish Cleaning services. Gutter cleanings not the same as regular window cleaning work.That said,this wk end I bought my first gutter vac.Two yrs old only used about 10 times, 80Ltr grippa vac with their recordable camara,£1000.Can any one tell me though what poles I have please.They say grippa max high level cleaning equipment on them, near the clamps.and are 70"" long,2" wide,there are five of them,carbon fibre.Theres no step in the female end they seem in great shape, one or two little scratches.Ive had two order two newclamps for the camera and moniter  so I haven't had a go yet.There was also another good deal on ebay, 1 yr old atom, 6 poles and extension pole, bag no camera. Cost£750 went for £300.In retrospect I think I would have been better of with that, As this is quite cumbersome ,and as a window cleaner  idont do an awful lot of gutters. heyho

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8 minutes ago, Diamond geezer said:

Yes I see now Scotish Cleaning services. Gutter cleanings not the same as regular window cleaning work.That said,this wk end I bought my first gutter vac.Two yrs old only used about 10 times, 80Ltr grippa vac with their recordable camara,£1000.Can any one tell me though what poles I have please.They say grippa max high level cleaning equipment on them, near the clamps.and are 70"" long,2" wide,there are five of them,carbon fibre.Theres no step in the female end they seem in great shape, one or two little scratches.Ive had two order two newclamps for the camera and moniter  so I haven't had a go yet.There was also another good deal on ebay, 1 yr old atom, 6 poles and extension pole, bag no camera. Cost£750 went for £300.In retrospect I think I would have been better of with that, As this is quite cumbersome ,and as a window cleaner  idont do an awful lot of gutters. heyho

 

 

To be fair that  sounds a good price I have a 40 ltr Grippatank vac as I wanted a smaller one for taking into property’s and doing shop fronts instead of having to use the big one and genie , the vac alone is around £900 so I think with the carbon poles you have got a bit of a bargained they are a good vac mine gets a lot if use and I haven’t found anything it won’t remove up to 50 feet 

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yes I think it was a bargin.Do you Know what poles they are please

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2 hours ago, Diamond geezer said:

yes I think it was a bargin.Do you Know what poles they are please

 

 

No I just bought the vac from them and use my existing carbon poles that I bought from a different company , try looking on Grippatank web site to see if you recognise them on there , 

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Yes well looked on their web site,they have some tapered poles,and some cheaper clamped,Whats been throwing me is the wording on their w

eb site poles,like super lite or something . I conclude mine are the cheaper clamped ones,but a bit older cause of the writing on them.T,he hose is 10+ metres long,not sure how iam going to get on with that.What iam trying to fathom at the moment is pole diameter.Mine are 2".Sky vac offer two sizes 2" and a smaller diameter,they seem to be recommending the smaller dia greater suction and easyer accses to gutters themselves.Would you throw some light on pole dia for me please thanks

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On ‎19‎/‎02‎/‎2019 at 21:44, Pjj said:

 

 

No I just bought the vac from them and use my existing carbon poles that I bought from a different company , try looking on Grippatank web site to see if you recognise them on there , 

On my vac theres a metal insert(tube) about18"longcut at an angle,that fits in the side entry that the hoes goes over,bit of a beast,is yours like that?

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scottish cleaning service

I had a 38mm inlet and all it did was block all the time. Swapped it over to a 50mm inlet and never had a blockage.

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4 hours ago, Diamond geezer said:

Yes well looked on their web site,they have some tapered poles,and some cheaper clamped,Whats been throwing me is the wording on their w

eb site poles,like super lite or something . I conclude mine are the cheaper clamped ones,but a bit older cause of the writing on them.T,he hose is 10+ metres long,not sure how iam going to get on with that.What iam trying to fathom at the moment is pole diameter.Mine are 2".Sky vac offer two sizes 2" and a smaller diameter,they seem to be recommending the smaller dia greater suction and easyer accses to gutters themselves.Would you throw some light on pole dia for me please thanks

Don't get the thinner poles, access to gutters is via tools that are basically the same size no matter what the pole dimensions are 

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20 hours ago, Diamond geezer said:

On my vac theres a metal insert(tube) about18"longcut at an angle,that fits in the side entry that the hoes goes over,bit of a beast,is yours like that?

 

 

Yes it’s about 8 inches long , it’s a good vac a lot better than I was expecting to be honest 

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