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Daniel Perkins
On 09/12/2018 at 10:34, Den said:

Good video. 

Just to add and expand on Pro Greens post that if you want to make a really cheap sprayer and most windies will have the spare parts laying around see link below.

 

 

That's a great idea, have them laying around myself! Happy days 😄

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P4dstar
On 09/12/2018 at 09:27, Green Pro Clean Ltd said:

 

£120 regardless of area (because the whole north south BS ((excluding property prices)) died with the horse and cart)  with the sole exclusion of inside M25 then i'd double it. 

You're missing @Dave Shaw aren't you Darren. You should allow him out of forum jail if you miss him that much you know 😂

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27 minutes ago, P4dstar said:

You're missing @Dave Shaw aren't you Darren. You should allow him out of forum jail if you miss him that much you know 😂

He bites I don't 😜

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P4dstar
22 hours ago, Clarkus84 said:

if I was going to charge £50,yes I'd get the job no bother but then your knocking your balls off for nothing

You'd be surprised, there are some serious time wasters out there. I had someone in my street call months ago for a quote to clean his garden room. Similar to the one in the picture. I only quoted £50 as he was round the corner in the same road. He told me he was really surprised at the price. The things as big as his house and actually more glass than the one in the picture and less frame. I think some people call you out for a quote like they would for a new kitchen, bathroom, driveway or new windows and doors etc. Most aren't like that but i'm sure some of them just collect quotes.

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Green Pro Clean Ltd
13 hours ago, P4dstar said:

You're missing @Dave Shaw aren't you Darren. You should allow him out of forum jail if you miss him that much you know 😂

 

13 hours ago, Part Timer said:

He bites I don't 😜

 

Yeah, very droll @P4dstar.  He's not 'in jail' he's outright banned.  And for the record not by me. He was a nasty little man that chose to attack every single comment I would make simply just to try to make himself look bigger.  Regardless of what I said he would come back with something contradictory and abusive.  He received warnings about his attitude from senior staff members and retorted with more 'you cant be serious what have I done? I'm so innocent' (ignorant) type attitude.  

 

After several warnings both of the private type from other moderators and and also myself pulling him up in public about his nonsense it continued his attitude was more in line with CIU or a facebook group than the community spirit we have here. He continued thinking he was a big man and wouldn't 'get his' if he didn't heed the warnings. 

 

Had he taken this approach with any other member than me he would have been banned by me months ago. He only lasted as long as he did as it was me he chose to repeatedly attack and in a position of moderator you do your best not take it personally and 'turn the other cheek' for two months I simply ignored him, not through physically blocking him but by not 'biting' as @Part Timer put it however as we all know you can only kick the dog so many times before he does bite! 

 

In my years on this this site we have banned several people and 99% of those are spammers selling supplements or such rubbish. Longer standing members will remember our friend Kevin Smiths. The only other 3 were Smurf that senior members will remember,  some nut job I don't remember his name ( @Dave B messaged me up to warn me of this psycho as Dave was a mod at the time and knew of this member from other sources) after banning him he threatened me on FB he was on his way to my house to 'cut me' (still waiting) and lastly Dave Shaw.  

 

Of actual members (not spammers) that's less than one per year during my tenure as a mod. 

 

There are members on here I don't get on with and that don't get on with me, there are members that have differing opinions to me. There are even a couple I don't like - simple as that and i'm sure that's a two way street also but the one thing I do make sure I do is hold actual respect for everyone on here as we are our own little club  house for the industry. We come here for advice, for banter, to socialize, to learn and even pass work around and help each other out where ever we can and as I've said before my doors always open and everyone's welcome. You have to go a hell of a long way before I wash my hands of you and that's just what Dave Shaw insisted on doing. 

 

It's not about @Part Timer 'biting' @P4dstar because that's simply banter as he recognises and as before where I talk of respecting other members he was quick enough to step up and help me out with some matters through private messenger cause he's grown up enough to realize when banter is banter something Dave Shaw didn't understand. His defence was all his abusive comments were 'just banter'

 

Any how, in summary, the other mods and admin were made aware of my intentions to ban Dave Shaw and my reasons for doing so and were in agreement.  He was due to be banned by the end of that day by me personally as I don't ask others to do my 'dirty work' however other staff took it on them selves and dealt with the matter before I had a chance. 

 

He (Dave Shaw) appeared about an hour latter under a new profile and started posting away but the mods here aren't as gullible as some may think and that profile was banned to. 

 

Enough talk of things gone by.  Got to pack me bag. Off for some paella for the weekend 👍    

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P4dstar
12 hours ago, Green Pro Clean Ltd said:

There are members on here I don't get on with and that don't get on with me

I know. For the record I don't fall into this category, I just like a bit of banter with everyone.

12 hours ago, Green Pro Clean Ltd said:

there are members that have differing opinions to me

This I might fall in from time to time but as i've said before if we all agreed all the time then we would have very little to say. I just want to be clear though, I don't actually care what happened to Dave and I certainly wasn't fighting his corner but thanks for the lengthy response. A more interesting one is Smurf, always wondered why a guy with that many posts who was clearly committed to the forum ended up disappearing. I genuinely thought he might have died. I clicked his profile once to see his last activity and his last few posts all seemed harmless.... Then I realised I don't really care and got on with my day 😂

12 hours ago, Green Pro Clean Ltd said:

He (Dave Shaw) appeared about an hour latter under a new profile and started posting away but the mods here aren't as gullible as some may think and that profile was banned to. 

 

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Dave B

Smurf was a good guy really and I have spoken to him since but certain things aren't allowed on the forum such as drunken rantings with personal insults

We're all grown ups and as such have to deal with the consequences of breaking rules and bad behaviour

As for Mr Shaw I have been in fb groups that he is in and the same attitude permeates the group and makes for a bad experience which is what we don't need here

I have been on here since 2014 and I think smurf is the only guy with more posts than me but I would expect to be jogged on if I had a bad attitude towards other members even if it is Darren🤣

That is the difference lol.. banter is for a laugh but some get too personal

Remember Jake @Green Pro Clean Ltd?

Had an obsession with the size of my bum lololol

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Tuffers

Was Jake the bloke who reckoned he could do a week's worth of work with something like 70 litres of water @Dave B?

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Dave B
6 minutes ago, Tuffers said:

Was Jake the bloke who reckoned he could do a week's worth of work with something like 70 litres of water @Dave B?

Yeah mate cos he had his flow on full lol

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Part Timer
1 hour ago, Dave B said:

certain things aren't allowed on the forum such as drunken rantings

So how come me and @steve garwoodare still allowed on 🤣

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Pjj

What have all there posts got to do with the price of a plastic clean ?... that’s what the op asked ?. 

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P4dstar
1 hour ago, Dave B said:

Smurf was a good guy really and I have spoken to him since but certain things aren't allowed on the forum such as drunken rantings with personal insults

We're all grown ups and as such have to deal with the consequences of breaking rules and bad behaviour

I have no idea what the situation was but if someone has provided such an input then perhaps the ban shouldn't be a lifetime thing? I agree that kind of thing can't be tolerated but like anything in life people should perhaps be given a chance to reform? Maybe not, I dunno. I remember a few months back some pr1ck came on and started spouting 💩 at Spruce for trying to help him, that deserves no mercy but someone with a long history of supporting and helping people, i'm not so sure!

 

2 hours ago, Dave B said:

As for Mr Shaw I have been in fb groups that he is in and the same attitude permeates the group and makes for a bad experience which is what we don't need here

I have been on here since 2014 and I think smurf is the only guy with more posts than me but I would expect to be jogged on if I had a bad attitude towards other members even if it is Darren

Dave and Darren constantly disagreed. In that final post I said at the bottom they both have valid points but both points are valid for different types of business. Dave can't see beyond his type of business and Darren can't see beyond his type of business. They're both right and they're both wrong. The only difference was Dave actively sought to take the argument to Darren instead of just posting his opinion on the thread he would clearly aim his comments at Darren. He would have got on much better if he just passive aggressively posted his opinion without identifying who it was aimed at like most people do 😂

 

41 minutes ago, Pjj said:

What have all there posts got to do with the price of a plastic clean ?... that’s what the op asked ?. 

 

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steve garwood
1 hour ago, Dave B said:

Yeah mate cos he had his flow on full lol

@Dave B, I can specifically remember the time when it all came to a head with jake years back on here.

You and him were having a barney on here on a Saturday morning. I was on a train to Millwall and was reading with interest as you, @Damo and I think @Tuffers had just about enough him and all got stuck into him.

He didn’t like it either when he put a post up explaining when you turn your tap off, your controller should read P5.

I explained he was wrong on two accounts. It’s P.S and it shouldn’t read that anyway it should be D.E.

He never spoke to me after that 😳

 

1 hour ago, Part Timer said:

So how come me and @steve garwoodare still allowed on 🤣

I actually had an official warning for a drunken rant on here a few years back 😩🍺

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3 minutes ago, steve garwood said:

@Dave B, I can specifically remember the time when it all came to a head with jake years back on here.

You and him were having a barney on here on a Saturday morning. I was on a train to Millwall and was reading with interest as you, @Damo and I think @Tuffers had just about enough him and all got stuck into him.

He didn’t like it either when he put a post up explaining when you turn your tap off, your controller should read P5.

I explained he was wrong on two accounts. It’s P.S and it shouldn’t read that anyway it should be D.E.

He never spoke to me after that 😳

 

I actually had an official warning for a drunken rant on here a few years back 😩🍺

I’d have enough of him due to the drivel he posted on another forum. 

 

However he did give me one piece of good advice. He didn’t like my welcome pack I gave to new customers, so I had it redesigned into an 8 page mini booklet I give to new customers. It’s very professional and Ive been using it for 2 years now. 

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18 minutes ago, Damo said:

However he did give me one piece of good advice. He didn’t like my welcome pack I gave to new customers, so I had it redesigned into an 8 page mini booklet I give to new customers. It’s very professional and Ive been using it for 2 years now. 

Got any info on that mate, I like that idea.

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Just now, P4dstar said:

Got any info on that mate, I like that idea.

 

It’s  basically an 8 page booklet full of info that can be found on my www. 

 

We pick up a lot of work so I needed something that explains my company, how it works and other useful information. 

 

I had them printed up and cost around £195 for 2500

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Dane

Sorry to butt in or digress but can I please have some more info on the FB forums / info pages you guys in comments have mentioned. Can never stop learning.

Thanks


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8 minutes ago, Dane said:

Sorry to butt in or digress but can I please have some more info on the FB forums / info pages you guys in comments have mentioned. Can never stop learning.

Thanks


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My advice is not to bother there’s no information out there compared to what’s on here. 

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Iron Giant
3 hours ago, Pjj said:

What have all there posts got to do with the price of a plastic clean ?... that’s what the op asked ?. 


Agreed if everyone can get back on the subject, pointless this going way off subject. 

12 minutes ago, Damo said:

 

My advice is not to bother there’s no information out there compared to what’s on here. 


Also agreed 😀

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Green Pro Clean Ltd
3 hours ago, P4dstar said:

Dave and Darren constantly disagreed. In that final post I said at the bottom they both have valid points but both points are valid for different types of business. Dave can't see beyond his type of business and Darren can't see beyond his type of business

 

You're quite wrong here I can see every type of business I'm always looking for the opportunity however Dave simply decided he had it in for me from the beginning he did not want to get along he wanted to be antagonistic he wanted to try and take on the moderation team and that was going to be his undoing from the start. A big problem of Daves is he believes everybody can have a nice compact round of 50 houses on one street of terraced buildings like they did in the 70s those days are gone . unless you're buying established rounds off of long-established window cleaners you don't much have a chance of getting 50 or 60 houses in a row.

Regardless of whatever I said Dave was always going to argue the exact opposite I could have said he was a super nice guy and he would have argued the other side of the coin. One key difference between Dave and I is he runs a window cleaning round with a helper I run a business. I don't mean that to sound arrogant or egotistical but that is just the facts behind it.

 

As @Dave B says it is an attitude situation and his was bad. 

 

The most important thing to remember about banta is there are long established members on here that have known each other and gotten used to each other over many years there are also people on here that I have met personally and worked with personally over the past few years so I know them on a personal level however there are others whom we don't know each other from Adam so when you try to banter with somebody you don't know and you've never met it could easily and often be taken the wrong way but sometimes is taken in exactly the right way and as I've said before he was just a nasty piece of work that did not want to get along from the start 

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5 minutes ago, Green Pro Clean Ltd said:

The most important thing to remember about banta is there are long established members on here that have known each other and gotten used to each other over many years there are also people on here that I have met personally and worked with personally over the past few years so I know them on a personal level however there are others whom we don't know each other from Adam so when you try to banter with somebody you don't know and you've never met it could easily and often be taken the wrong way but sometimes is taken in exactly the right way and as I've said before he was just a nasty piece of work that did not want to get along from the start 

I have no idea where I fit into that section. I like to think that I have got to know most of the more active members and we all get along and have a bit of banter. Sometimes at my expense, sometimes at other peoples.

 

With regards to Dave we are going to have to agree to disagree. He runs a £5 terraced house clean type business and I don't think you get that at all. His business model is dated and basically from the 1970's which is why I don't think you get it, I also don't get it and i'm sure many other people don't get it either. All I can see are faults with it which is clearly all you could see with it and thats why you ended up arguing so much. Lets just leave the Dave issue now, I genuinely meant it as a bit of a laugh but realistically Dave is sat there reading this and by keeping the conversation going you're giving him the response he wants to being banned surely?

 

1 hour ago, Iron Giant said:


Agreed if everyone can get back on the subject, pointless this going way off subject. 

I second that, motion carried 😂

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Pjj
21 minutes ago, Green Pro Clean Ltd said:

 

You're quite wrong here I can see every type of business I'm always looking for the opportunity however Dave simply decided he had it in for me from the beginning he did not want to get along he wanted to be antagonistic he wanted to try and take on the moderation team and that was going to be his undoing from the start. A big problem of Daves is he believes everybody can have a nice compact round of 50 houses on one street of terraced buildings like they did in the 70s those days are gone . unless you're buying established rounds off of long-established window cleaners you don't much have a chance of getting 50 or 60 houses in a row.

Regardless of whatever I said Dave was always going to argue the exact opposite I could have said he was a super nice guy and he would have argued the other side of the coin. One key difference between Dave and I is he runs a window cleaning round with a helper I run a business. I don't mean that to sound arrogant or egotistical but that is just the facts behind it.

 

As @Dave B says it is an attitude situation and his was bad. 

 

The most important thing to remember about banta is there are long established members on here that have known each other and gotten used to each other over many years there are also people on here that I have met personally and worked with personally over the past few years so I know them on a personal level however there are others whom we don't know each other from Adam so when you try to banter with somebody you don't know and you've never met it could easily and often be taken the wrong way but sometimes is taken in exactly the right way and as I've said before he was just a nasty piece of work that did not want to get along from the start 

 

 

 

Not wanting to be awkward but how does all this comply with gdpr talking about people ,specific allegations ,and naming them on a public forum anyone can read this could it not from a legal point of view be slanderous ?. Just a thought 

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1 minute ago, Pjj said:

Not wanting to be awkward but how does all this comply with gdpr talking about people ,specific allegations ,and naming them on a public forum anyone can read this could it not from a legal point of view be slanderous ?. Just a thought 

More to the point what does this have to do with Pvc cleaning eh 😂 Its all speculation anyway so it wouldn't be covered under GDPR. No specific details that are private have been given. All comments made are based on Darrens perception of Daves business and not actual knowledge. 

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Green Pro Clean Ltd
35 minutes ago, P4dstar said:

More to the point what does this have to do with Pvc cleaning eh 😂 Its all speculation anyway so it wouldn't be covered under GDPR. No specific details that are private have been given. All comments made are based on Darrens perception of Daves business and not actual knowledge. 

 

You're the one that keeps this coming up so don't be too cheeky about it now pal . I think it's about time this thread was put on lockdown . @Gav

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9 hours ago, Green Pro Clean Ltd said:

 

You're the one that keeps this coming up so don't be too cheeky about it now pal . I think it's about time this thread was put on lockdown . @Gav


I was considering locking it down but wasn't sure and thought it might just fade away evidently not a number of hours later. 

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