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26 minutes ago, rugbywolf said:
I have put this video up on here before, but I'm putting it up again because now I have made videos showing how I did it, if anyone is interested.
No, you just don't get it.Be easier using wfp , instead of all this awkwardness
That’s fine you can clean windows what ever way you want , safety is main priority, why don’t you invent something stop you fromWhat is it with wfp people. They're like some of these religious groups, insecure in their own religion, and have to go about telling everyone that they are in the wrong. This is the TRADITIONAL page. I'm not interested in wfp, I don't want to discuss or look at it. I considered changing over to wfp some 10 years ago, and I didn't feel that it was altogether in the customers best interest. It was mainly created for industrial/commercial use, which is OK. This system of mine is actually easier to use than squeegee and applicator. I have always been a modifier and always had an eye on being quicker and more efficient.
I’m pretty sure health and safety wasn’t in place back then , all what I am saying is move with the times and consider you’re safely ,I've been cleaning windows since 1967. what do you think we used before wfp.
What is it with wfp people. They're like some of these religious groups, insecure in their own religion, and have to go about telling everyone that they are in the wrong. This is the TRADITIONAL page. I'm not interested in wfp, I don't want to discuss or look at it. I considered changing over to wfp some 10 years ago, and I didn't feel that it was altogether in the customers best interest. It was mainly created for industrial/commercial use, which is OK. This system of mine is actually easier to use than squeegee and applicator. I have always been a modifier and always had an eye on being quicker and more efficient.
In that case you should still be using a chamois leather not mop and blade ???I've been cleaning windows since 1967. what do you think we used before wfp.
I don't entirely agree with what you say. I have never lost a customer to wfp, in fact the only customers I have lost have either moved away or died, but I have picked up a lot from wfp! Wfp people won't go over a fence or through houses, or sometimes over garages (it's not dangerous if you take care). I've seen wfp operators leaving hoses over roads, along pavements in towns. I appreciate that it might be quicker, but all I hear from wfp is how much money they earn. With a ladder you are in front of that wind when you do the upstairs, but you can't see all the fly spots and insect pooh that I can, and certain times of the year it gets quite bad, especially in rural areas like where I live. One other thing that I have found is that wfp ops buy rounds up knowing that they are going to lose some, which in fact breaks up what could have been a compact round, and then those customers can't get a window cleaner (trad) because there won't be enough work to make it viable. I sold a round which was extremely compact in a village of nearly all 4 & 5 bed detached, which I had been doing for around 15 years. The two who took it on were wfp and said that they would do whichever the customer wanted. Within 18 months they had lost a third of that work. Change is not always for the better.Mine not criticising you just saying that watching your video is painful , if that’s how you want to work then fine but times change you are choosing to use mop and blade that is a progression from the chamois , wfp is a progression from mop and blade , times change and the way we work has to alter as well , wfp cleans the frames to a very high standard mop and blade doesn’t , we regularly are picking up customers from traders as customers want the frames doing , I was trad for 10 year s going over to wfp was the best thing I ever did , earnings have gone through the roof , customers far happier, can do work that you couldn’t do before and so the list goes on , then there is the H&M’s aspect , if you go down the road cleaning with ladders and have an accident and the health and safety executive get involved look out they will throw the book at you , it’s not illegal to use ladders but the law is very clear if a safer alternative to ladders is available it MUST BE USED , no ambiguity there my friend , trad is fine for shop fronts but it is now a very outdated way of working , when I started wfp 18 years ago all the trad guys laughed there socks of at me saying it will never take off doesn’t do a good job etc , now whose laughing, there is only one guy left doing it and he’s loosing work hand over fist to wfp , wether you like it or not trad is a dying art most modern window cleaners cannot use a squeeze and I know lots that don’t Evan have one !!! How you want to work is up to you but think about your safety you are clearly an older cleaner you don’t want to have a fall and end up disabled when a better and far safer alternative is out there
In that case you should still be using a chamois leather not mop and blade ???
Let's see...I was not being abusive, I was merely stating a fact.
Almost comical, definitely laughable.What is it with wfp people. They're like some of these religious groups, insecure in their own religion,
To have a system that leaves the frames and sills cleaner than dragging a dirty rag round them? Wonder what the customer thinks?didn't feel that it was altogether in the customers best interest.
Ermmm..... it is a squeegee and applicator just with a spray bottle atrachedThis system of mine is actually easier to use than squeegee and applicator
I 42 years you never lost a customer due to economic downturn such as they got laid off or had kids and had to cutback expenses? Answer no and well......B.S. to be honest.fact the only customers I have lost have either moved away or died,
All my lads do so where'd you get this from?Wfp people won't go over a fence or through houses, or sometimes over garages
It's called an accident for a reasonit's not dangerous if you take care
Yes, I can, partly due to 20/20 vision and partly due to polarised sunglasses. Mostly due to just looking though.but you can't see all the fly spots and insect pooh that I can
I am not miffed because it was criticized, if your happy doing it your way then that's fine, but the fact that newbies come on this forum is to get advice and help. suggesting to them that wfp is the 'best way to go' is not helpful for a person starting, when you consider the cost involved setting up, when they probably haven't got enough work, or know if they are going to be able to make a go of it. That's my point which you have missed. And by the way, you are not understanding the principle of my system. It's not an unger sprayer and I don't wipe round with a dirty cloth.Let's see...
Almost comical, definitely laughable.
To have a system that leaves the frames and sills cleaner than dragging a dirty rag round them? Wonder what the customer thinks?
Ermmm..... it is a squeegee and applicator just with a spray bottle atrached
I 42 years you never lost a customer due to economic downturn such as they got laid off or had kids and had to cutback expenses? Answer no and well......B.S. to be honest.
All my lads do so where'd you get this from?
It's called an accident for a reason
Yes, I can, partly due to 20/20 vision and partly due to polarised sunglasses. Mostly due to just looking though.
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The minute someone critiqued your method you started a slew of your 'facts' that in no way related to showing a benefit of the tool you've made just attacks other methods of cleaning.
Lastly, your tool appears for all intents and purposes to be a 'fliq' attached to an Unger sprayer on a belt just using a pressurised bottle instead of a 'squeeze' action that would ultimately result in the same result.....soapy water on glass.
Just an observation.