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Chriscp

Just starting out, equipment on its way, was wondering how hard the graft actually is..last ten years I've been working in orchards all year round in all weather's,  previous to that i worked in the print moving a mouse around a desk....am I in for a shock or is this going to be the start of a nice little number?

 

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riggy

just repeatitve more than anything else. water fed poles are light as a feather. ladders the only weighty thing.  erecting marqees is the hardest job iv ever done. 10 to 15 hour days 7 days a week out in all weather, relentless heavy hard graft.  averaged 75 hours a week doing that all for 7.50 an hour 😞 window cleaning is easier on the body compared to that and alot of other manual labour jobs.  

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Chriscp

Cheers Riggy,  not getting involved with ladders, farm work is hard graft, kept me fit but finally caught up on me, hence the change. Hardest job I ever done unloading containers by hand in Perth in 40 plus..

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THL4KEL
3 minutes ago, Chriscp said:

Cheers Riggy,  not getting involved with ladders, farm work is hard graft, kept me fit but finally caught up on me, hence the change. Hardest job I ever done unloading containers by hand in Perth in 40 plus..

Are you in Perth WA mate?

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riggy
2 minutes ago, Chriscp said:

Cheers Riggy,  not getting involved with ladders, farm work is hard graft, kept me fit but finally caught up on me, hence the change. Hardest job I ever done unloading containers by hand in Perth in 40 plus..

yer that sounds like hard sweat.  think establishing the round in the first place is the really hard bit. mentaly and time wise.  least thats what im finding. alot of walking which has been good cause i feel fitter already and lost abit of weight too.  just not had takers yet, its alot of unpaid effort befor any money starts coming back in.  what stratigy are you useing to find customers ?  

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Chriscp

Not in Perth mate done that,

Walking not a problem used to walking 15  mile a day with 25kg on me,  equipment on route, worked in advertising, design print for years looking forward to getting out there and smashing it if that makes sense...

 

 

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Supersonic1987
3 hours ago, riggy said:

yer that sounds like hard sweat.  think establishing the round in the first place is the really hard bit. mentaly and time wise.  least thats what im finding. alot of walking which has been good cause i feel fitter already and lost abit of weight too.  just not had takers yet, its alot of unpaid effort befor any money starts coming back in.  what stratigy are you useing to find customers ?  

Finding the same mate. It’s so disheartening 

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Maund
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Cleaning windows using WFP is easy on the body, only part I find strenuous is reeling the hose in from the floor then lifting the reel back in the van. Your setup may be different 

 

Cleaning gutters, fascias is a little bit more hard work. Much harder in the beginning, but once you have the knack in doing them they become easier. 

 

Clearing inside of gutters is probably the most demanding

 

Or maybe doing conservatory roofs 🤔

 

But the job as a whole I would say is pretty easy 👍

 

 

Edited by Maund

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Clisty1989

The work itself is easy once you get the knack, it's getting the work that's the hard part.

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Adman

I found sitting in an office "easy" but stressful.  This is tougher on the body obviously.  10000 steps a day, hard on the shoulders, neck, hands and elbows - I go home pretty knackered every day, but not stressed.

 

I don't think you can call it a "nice little number" though .  That suggests getting something for nothing which is pretty far from reality.  Everything you get, you have to graft to win and then graft to keep...

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Incheck

The hardest days for me are hot summer days the heat drains me & makes me slower, the light reflecting off the glass is sometimes unbearable even with shades, i use bottle after bottle of sun tan, and just that general horrible sticky feeling. You know you’d much rather be at the beach or on holiday. 

If you have the right equipment and labour you can make most jobs easier. We did a two storey town house gutter clearance yesterday blocked downpipe at the back, two guys 3 section ladder and a VAC we were done within an hour. 1 man would have been almost impossible due to problems i would have faced erecting the ladder alone. Pjj has devised a cool tool to unblock downpipes from the ground but i haven’t worked out his secrets 😉Conservatory roofs are definitely hard graft.

 

 

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Chriscp

Adman 10000 steps a day is a quarter of what I was doing with hard graft on top. That's the point I was sort of getting at, I can't see it being anywhere as near as hard as my last job, my pole turned up yesterday and has confirmed this..

 

Incheck,  do you usually work as a two man team?.. seems the way to go on the hard work jobs?

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Incheck
2 minutes ago, Part Timer said:

Cheers big man i’ve screen shotted it. next time i go to morrisons i’ll have a gander for it 😎

how’s life up north? Heard it’s been pretty rough in many places i think we've got off lightly even though it’s been generally naff

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steve garwood

As a ginger, I find the best thing to put on is this.....

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Incheck
10 minutes ago, steve garwood said:

As a ginger, I find the best thing to put on is this.....

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Steve, i love you 😂

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Adman
46 minutes ago, Chriscp said:

Adman 10000 steps a day is a quarter of what I was doing with hard graft on top. That's the point I was sort of getting at, I can't see it being anywhere as near as hard as my last job, my pole turned up yesterday and has confirmed this..

 

Incheck,  do you usually work as a two man team?.. seems the way to go on the hard work jobs?

 I'm sure it will be a sunny walk in the park for you then dood

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Chriscp

Adman

Picked up injuries from last place, all healing at the moment, got to the point where I would have to physically open my locked fingers up in the morning, my only concern is getting the customers, got to start somewhere..

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High-tower

Window cleaning is a very repetitive task and causes a lot of strain on small groups of muscles and joints. I wouldn’t be expecting a long career in window cleaning if was struggling with bad shoulders/elbows/wrists/fingers.

although carbon fibre poles, lightweight brushes, and electric reels all help to reduce strain.

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Part Timer
51 minutes ago, Incheck said:

Cheers big man i’ve screen shotted it. next time i go to morrisons i’ll have a gander for it 😎

how’s life up north? Heard it’s been pretty rough in many places i think we've got off lightly even though it’s been generally naff

I was in Cambridgeshire last week and it p!ssed down there as well. Ticking over nicely up here but I'm not trying to conquer the world. Hope you're keeping busy and your family is ok.

That suntan cream has something in it so you apply it with a simple rub on and it dries itself. Nasty smelling vapour comes off so be careful round the nostrils and eyes. Will be dry in a few minutes and isn't greasy at all. 

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Incheck
3 minutes ago, Part Timer said:

I was in Cambridgeshire last week and it p!ssed down there as well. Ticking over nicely up here but I'm not trying to conquer the world. Hope you're keeping busy and your family is ok.

That suntan cream has something in it so you apply it with a simple rub on and it dries itself. Nasty smelling vapour comes off so be careful round the nostrils and eyes. Will be dry in a few minutes and isn't greasy at all. 

Lovely jubbly! I’ll keep the advice in mind as i only use suntan on my face and neck. I wear long sleeve tees in summer to prevent burning/skin cancer risks as im really fair and would go through so much sun tan otherwise. 

Family’s good yeah 😎 mrs has found a job recently which has boosted her hours considerably so its good for her socially and opens up a few doors for us financially. i’m just in the process of moving in, hope things are good for you too! 

Couple of neighborhoods flooded in east cardiff but it was isolated incidents involving a few particular streets at the bottom of hills mainly. Some people have had their houses ruined 😳 gotta feel sorry for them

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Tango
On 13/06/2019 at 16:40, riggy said:

just repeatitve more than anything else. water fed poles are light as a feather. ladders the only weighty thing.  erecting marqees is the hardest job iv ever done. 10 to 15 hour days 7 days a week out in all weather, relentless heavy hard graft.  averaged 75 hours a week doing that all for 7.50 an hour 😞 window cleaning is easier on the body compared to that and alot of other manual labour jobs.  

 

CLX is a bit of a strain at full length especially at an angle if doing gutters / soffits / fascias so I'd have to slightly disagree about the light as a feather comment there. I did a bungalows gutters / s / f yesterday and although i only needed two sections at most, when i had flower beds in the way that were 4ft from the wall it did become a pita. That's what happens when you go budget i guess.. not that i'd call a Gardiner pole budget when compared to the trashy hose poles the public find in the shops - it might only be a CLX but i feel proud turning up at someones house able to reach 30ft lol.

 

As for hard work, at present my weekend job is with a DIY chain. Unloading (or reloading) pallets of tiles weighing anywhere from 16-30Kg is the hardest job I've ever done and it's a slow gruelling process too - managers just don't understand that weight is slow to move and they're constantly on at us about getting stuff done.. When i can afford to survive on the glass I'll mull over jacking it in but I will miss my colleagues there - it's a great place to work in all other ways - best I've ever worked in actually.

 

On 13/06/2019 at 17:02, riggy said:

yer that sounds like hard sweat.  think establishing the round in the first place is the really hard bit. mentaly and time wise.  least thats what im finding. alot of walking which has been good cause i feel fitter already and lost abit of weight too.  just not had takers yet, its alot of unpaid effort befor any money starts coming back in.  what stratigy are you useing to find customers ?  

 

You must surely have had at least one or two takers? - I once tried gas / leccy door 2 door selling. That was seriously hard graft mentally and then the company didn't even want to pay us. 3 months later I still didn't get paid and i lost my accomodation for it. I was dubious about door knocking for window cleaning but to be fair even I'm managing to pick up one or two custys a day - my record was 4 (two were bookings in advance though). People actually see your service as something credible - gas / leccy people just see you as a commission grabber.

 

If you're constantly getting "no" then try a different area. So if you're in a new build area, try an old build one. If you're in a rich area (they don't like peasants knocking and disturbing their importantness) try a non rich one. If you're in a young peoples area, try an area full of old timers. Long road? Short closes's (especially when putting out leaflets - wasting them on a long road is demoralising so i switched to short roads).

 

On 13/06/2019 at 20:13, Supersonic1987 said:

Finding the same mate. It’s so disheartening 

 

Like above mate - got to change things until you find something that works for you. The first few weeks I had no work. I got one booking in advance for 3 weeks time, then nothing.more really other than a couple of neighbours - did £55 in my first month (incidentally the same as our windy earnt in their first month lol - and yes you read that right, i have a windy do our windows lol). You MUST go door knocking (leaflets do kinda work but not quick enough) - as above, try different areas, if you keep getting no, abandon that road and shift elsewhere - maybe go back to that road another day to finish it off. Shorter roads are better - quicker and you less waste time if they're all no's.

 

Don't know why but when you're new it's like the punters can smell blood and want to finish you off before you've even started. Once you start picking up custys and your confidence starts to slowly change with the realisation that you CAN do it, they seem to take to you a bit more - that or you just don't notice the no's as much.

 

Wear a hi-vis too so you look a bit more credible!

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scottish cleaning service

I did 3 flats in 2hrs today because the scaffold had been removed. The windows had that blue polythene protection on them. What it doesn't say is that it will leave sticky residue on the windows. I had to use isopropanol on every window, made £27 and got a new customer so no all bad.

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Iron Giant

The physical part of the job isn't an issue, it's the 99 other things firstly you need clients and plenty of them you won't get paid like you do in paye no 28 days paid holiday no sick pay no work equals no pay and you will have continual rolling debt constantly running into the £100's once you have a good sized established round, unfortunately this is part of the reality check that some people just don't realise about been self-employed more so window cleaning as you don't get paid straight after every completed job. 

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chelmsclean

If you work hard you can make a good living.

It's cold in the winter and the summer can be draining if it's hot.

If you struggle to get out of bed and motivated it's not for you

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