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water freezing on windows

Everyone is different - but for me, if it’s freezing on the windows then I go home and either try again in a couple of hours, or just enjoy a day off and try again tomorrow- it’s the flexibility (and money) that we love about this job!

Regarding leaving marks on windows - if it’s frozen before you have finished cleaning the windows then yes it will leave marks as any dirt is still suspended in the frozen water and will then run down the window when it eventually melts.

Dont want to start a debate about hot water as that always ends well... ?

 
It will only leave marks if there is dirt trapped in it. Part of the process is to rinse the dirt off. As the water is freezing then you're not able to rinse so in theory there is a chance the dirt will stay on the window when it thaws. Wasting your time continuing so either wait until it warms up or pack up and call it a day. 

 
So water is freezing on my custy’s windows today. Is it too cold to work? Will it leave marks? Never had it freeze up before ?
its usually unheated connys and porches that freeze up with cold wfp when its really cold...glad im hot wfp!

yes id go home if i were you....the good news is its gonna get warmer next week but more rain(i prefer this cold dry weather myself!)

 
No m8 my insurance company has covered me for 13kilo bottol and gas heater ?

No m8 one heater ?
Did they charge much more for it mate ? 

I'm insured for it through A plan for a 9kg propane bottle. If your van blows up they probably wouldn't insure you if you haven't had it gas tested once a year? That's only a thought tho
I clean the windows of an ex gas engineer and runs a gas sales company. I told him about these supposed gas bottles blowing up. He told me it’s virtually impossible 

 
Did they charge much more for it mate ? 

I clean the windows of an ex gas engineer and runs a gas sales company. I told him about these supposed gas bottles blowing up. He told me it’s virtually impossible 
It’s not the gas cylinders that blow up that only happens in a fire , theses cheap gas heaters can have the pilot light go out and some gas can escape then  when the pilot light is re lit the gas in the van ignites causing a gas explosion , just look  on the internet news there are many pictures of this having happened some pictures have Evan been posted on hear I think @dazmond put up a couple ?.

 
It’s not the gas cylinders that blow up that only happens in a fire , theses cheap gas heaters can have the pilot light go out and some gas can escape then  when the pilot light is re lit the gas in the van ignites causing a gas explosion , just look  on the internet news there are many pictures of this having happened some pictures have Evan been posted on hear I think @dazmond put up a couple ?.
I have mine mounted on back door m8 so its out in the open only down side is it can blow out ?

 
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Did they charge much more for it mate ? 

I clean the windows of an ex gas engineer and runs a gas sales company. I told him about these supposed gas bottles blowing up. He told me it’s virtually impossible 
No m8 no increase at all they just needed info on setup gas bottol must be strapped in ect and got to use 13kilo 

 
Get a heated system gas £200 or diesel  4k ish im gas never had a issue change the heaters every 2 years 
Hi Mate. I`m very interested to hear about these gas heaters as I`m looking at upgrading to hot water. £200 seems very affordable. Did you fit it yourself or did you get a specialist to do it? When you get a spare moment please could you show us a photo of your set up?

 
Immersion heater does me now, takes away the risk of gas side of things.

The heater i bought,started leaking water, soon after installing it on back of van door, had to open it up n tighten the connections inside, that worked, but wasn't impressed. Good bit of kit overall, but as said if its windy blows the heater out, which did happen fairly often. 

If you get one mind you have to bleed it with bleed screw in winter, as may freeze n crack parts that the water is in. 

 
If I wanted warm water sum of the time rather than hot water all the time I would go down the immersion route , I did  try a gas boiler for a few weeks but quickly realised that it was an accident waiting to happen , I have a few friends who are gas fitters all said they felt it was not suitable or a safe way to work so I removed it also the gas cylinder should be in a cupboard with vents through the van floor in case of leaks this takes up a lot of room and it’s not something I wanted , you aren't allowed to drive with it running and the gas cylinder is supposed to be turned off between jobs legally and for insurance cover all this made gas a pita as far as I was concerned , immersion heaters are cheap to buy easy and quick to fit and will give some of the benefits of using hot water but water temperature at the brush will never be the same as a diesel or gas boiler and tank temperature will drop during the day by a considerable amount unless the tank is very well insulated or a custom made insulated tank is used ,as an example I had 1000 ltr of water in my tank the other night at 20:00 hours the temperature was 74 degrees , by 8:30 the next morning it had dropped to 22 degrees,the tank isn’t insulated but I was surprised that it had dropped that much , my point is if I was using that water for window cleaning the temperature would have dropped much faster as the volume decreased , Ime not knocking immersion heaters but just saying that you won’t get the same temperature at the brush from that as you will diesel or gas , but on a budget or just to make life easier in the cold weather I think it’s a very  cost effective way of heating water and it’s going tk be much better than cold water just above freezing 

 
I did the 6 month gas course and never read or heard about a gas bottle heating water bar a caravan. It would need to have a yearly service record history to stand up in court. Too many regulations its contravening unless you fit it on back door and leave it fully open to allow the carbon monoxide to vent to fresh air. I wouldn't want an employee using it in case they got injured and the H&S Executive got involved. Penny wise Pound foolish if you ask me. ? 

 
If I wanted warm water sum of the time rather than hot water all the time I would go down the immersion route , I did  try a gas boiler for a few weeks but quickly realised that it was an accident waiting to happen , I have a few friends who are gas fitters all said they felt it was not suitable or a safe way to work so I removed it also the gas cylinder should be in a cupboard with vents through the van floor in case of leaks this takes up a lot of room and it’s not something I wanted , you aren't allowed to drive with it running and the gas cylinder is supposed to be turned off between jobs legally and for insurance cover all this made gas a pita as far as I was concerned , immersion heaters are cheap to buy easy and quick to fit and will give some of the benefits of using hot water but water temperature at the brush will never be the same as a diesel or gas boiler and tank temperature will drop during the day by a considerable amount unless the tank is very well insulated or a custom made insulated tank is used ,as an example I had 1000 ltr of water in my tank the other night at 20:00 hours the temperature was 74 degrees , by 8:30 the next morning it had dropped to 22 degrees,the tank isn’t insulated but I was surprised that it had dropped that much , my point is if I was using that water for window cleaning the temperature would have dropped much faster as the volume decreased , Ime not knocking immersion heaters but just saying that you won’t get the same temperature at the brush from that as you will diesel or gas , but on a budget or just to make life easier in the cold weather I think it’s a very  cost effective way of heating water and it’s going tk be much better than cold water just above freezing 
I've only got a 400litre upright tank n one layer of insulation, I'm surprised that the water is still hanging about 50 degrees near end of day, i put my heater on about 10pm at night n its not fully turned up. The van has a layer of insulation, small van, so maybe keeps it cosier.

 
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