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Difference between a Kiam Cyclone and GVS Predator? Been hearing better things about Kiams Cyclone and its cheaper?

Can also buy the machine on its own, has anyone got one?

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All come from the same manufacturer - Elsea.

The Kiam one is the newer model. 

Machine Mart - V Tuf unit is another Elsea vac but lower watts and front entry.

Tucker in the states are using the Kiam version now as well. 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Paul Sutton said:

Difference between a Kiam Cyclone and GVS Predator? Been hearing better things about Kiams Cyclone and its cheaper?

Can also buy the machine on its own, has anyone got one?

The Predator video is a lot better though, the Kiam one is terrible as the guy doesn't have a clue. I have an old Kiam that I converted to side entry a few years ago. It will pull most things out of gutters with only 2 motors being used. 

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Le coup de raclette.NET

Hello folks,

I want to invest in a good and reliable gutter vacuum. 

I would like your advices.

What I mean with "good" is :

  • best sucking power possible
  • being able to go as high as possible with
  • poles that are as light as possible.

I would also like a system with camera-screen to see the gutters from the ground.

I would like also to be able to use this gutter vacuum to clean the dust on ceiling's metallic structures inside houses (with brush at the end) and I would like to be able to use the vacuum as a normal domestic vacuum.

Budget is not a problem.

I've heard that certain Gardiner waterfed poles can be used as gutter poles. Is that correct or not really ?

For WFP, I'm using Gardiner Xtreme 47.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Gilles

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Le coup de raclette.NET
23 minutes ago, THL4KEL said:

Just buy a Sky Vac Industrial and Elite Poles.

What do you think about : https://www.grippatank.co.uk/grippavac-outdoor-80-litre-gutter-vacuum-package

in comparison with the Sky Vac Industrial with Elite Poles ?

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3 minutes ago, Le coup de raclette.NET said:

What do you think about : https://www.grippatank.co.uk/grippavac-outdoor-80-litre-gutter-vacuum-package

in comparison with the Sky Vac Industrial with Elite Poles ?

I have the Grippatank one and it is a good all round vac , but for gutters the skyvac is a better option I also have the sky vac interceptor which wouldn’t be suitable or  indoor work as it’s a petrol engine model but the skyvac industrial is the same but electric  , it’s difficult to get one vac to do all those jobs . GVS @Julia Martin I think it is might be able to offer some help they are a relatively new company but have some nice vacs at a reasonable price don’t know if they export to Belgium  

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Spinaclean, Sky Vac, have  tools you can buy that fit on the Elite Poles so the Industrial will do both internal and external work up to around 15 metres.

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GVS Julia Martin
10 minutes ago, Pjj said:

I have the Grippatank one and it is a good all round vac , but for gutters the skyvac is a better option I also have the sky vac interceptor which wouldn’t be suitable or  indoor work as it’s a petrol engine model but the skyvac industrial is the same but electric  , it’s difficult to get one vac to do all those jobs . GVS @Julia Martin I think it is might be able to offer some help they are a relatively new company but have some nice vacs at a reasonable price don’t know if they export to Belgium  

We’ve been established 10 years, previously under Aquafed but rebranded in 2017 to Gutter Vacuum Systems. We never pay to advertise which is why we seem to be relatively new to many.

We can export to Belgium. A bit extra paperwork etc post Brexit but it’s doable. 
Any of our machines can be used outdoors and indoors, we do sell high level internal kits and we have more coming out very soon.

Hope this helps, happy to answer any questions, Julia 

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4 hours ago, Le coup de raclette.NET said:

What do you think about : https://www.grippatank.co.uk/grippavac-outdoor-80-litre-gutter-vacuum-package

in comparison with the Sky Vac Industrial with Elite Poles ?

If your budget can afford SkyVac then it probably the best option, all the machines are pretty much the same but the Sky Vac Industrial trolley is very well built. Their Elite poles come with a big selection of fittings/heads and they have an airflow pole pole that saves you dropping the pole to release large debris. They offer a lot of internal cleaning options as well.

If your going to be doing internal cleaning I personally would not use a machine that been used outdoors because no matter how much you clean it, it will smell rough..

 

 

 

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On 08/03/2021 at 17:40, THL4KEL said:

All come from the same manufacturer - Elsea.

The Kiam one is the newer model. 

Machine Mart - V Tuf unit is another Elsea vac but lower watts and front entry.

Tucker in the states are using the Kiam version now as well. 

 

 

The Kiam machine is a different model to the Predator which Tucker had prior to Kiam. 
 

We have personally designed a brand new trolley for the Predator which will be available next month.  The Predator too can be purchased on its own under the wet and dry tab on the website with a choice of hose length and type. It of course has an extender taking it from 76L to 110L for bigger jobs.  We are slightly more expensive as our ally poles are 500g per pole, theirs 715g and we have extra items in our kits.
 

In reference to the videos on our machines, we have actually spent years clearing gutters and undertaking exterior cleaning ourselves so what we do is based upon our experience. We used to provide technical advice to Kiams customers because of our experience and product knowledge. 
 

Happy to answer any questions for clarification, Julia 

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1 hour ago, GVS Julia Martin said:

The Kiam machine is a different model to the Predator which Tucker had prior to Kiam. 
 

We have personally designed a brand new trolley for the Predator which will be available next month.  The Predator too can be purchased on its own under the wet and dry tab on the website with a choice of hose length and type. It of course has an extender taking it from 76L to 110L for bigger jobs.  We are slightly more expensive as our ally poles are 500g per pole, theirs 715g and we have extra items in our kits.
 

In reference to the videos on our machines, we have actually spent years clearing gutters and undertaking exterior cleaning ourselves so what we do is based upon our experience. We used to provide technical advice to Kiams customers because of our experience and product knowledge. 
 

Happy to answer any questions for clarification, Julia 

Hi,

Thanks for that, do you have a shop I can visit?

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16 minutes ago, Paul Sutton said:

Hi,

Thanks for that, do you have a shop I can visit?

All of our equipment can be found on our website guttervacuumsystems.co.uk and there are more product lines coming this year to enhance your efficiency on gutter clears.

We are on Facebook and Instagram too so you can see the equipment in use by many other professionals. 


If you have any questions at all, technical or advice, you’re very welcome to ask me here, you can chat with me on 01603 905501 9-5 mon-fri or you can email me at julia@guttervacuumsystems.co.uk 


 

 

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On 15/03/2021 at 08:29, GVS Julia Martin said:

All of our equipment can be found on our website guttervacuumsystems.co.uk and there are more product lines coming this year to enhance your efficiency on gutter clears.

We are on Facebook and Instagram too so you can see the equipment in use by many other professionals. 


If you have any questions at all, technical or advice, you’re very welcome to ask me here, you can chat with me on 01603 905501 9-5 mon-fri or you can email me at julia@guttervacuumsystems.co.uk 


 

 

So are you selling these from home then? 

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Just now, Paul Sutton said:

So are you selling these from home then? 

We do not have a physical shop at any of our facilities currently. It is something we are looking at for the future but any visits are not permitted due to current restrictions. 

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