First Clean Problem

Sumtyms wen i do a first clean the windows be gleaming afterwards

But sumtyms the windows have some very bad streaks !

It seems to always be the same problem .... Its like trapped dirt coming out of the rubber seals n dirt just drivbling down the window stained on

Had this 3 times in past 2/3 months but after the first clean ive had no problems

Ive told all customers how it is and they all still payed me even tho i said u can have it for free a women said today i appreciate your honesty i go to her its normal for that to happen, cos of all the trapped dirt etc

Any one else experience the same?

Thanks

Yes but it tends to fade after each clean(thats what I found anyway)

That's why first cleans can take 2-3 times longer to clean properly.

So whats the solution then smurf? More scrubbing and even more rinsing?

So whats the solution then smurf? More scrubbing and even more rinsing?

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Use ecover sprayed on to your brush or g101 or something like that on a first clean and rinse well will come up good everytime! i do lots of first cleans and thats the method i use!
just like in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCYt3eEWYZY

So whats the solution then smurf? More scrubbing and even more rinsing?

absolutely he shouldn't be offering it free. He should be going back and doing it again cos he shouldn't have left it in the first place. Personally and maybe its just me but the old it'll take 2-3 cleans is like a get out of jail free card. Do it once do it right or work at maccie d,s

Cheers lads, yea i was thinkin giving it for free is a nono

I could have probably ragged that small window in the vid quicker with the same results

However after saying that it gives you the idea how you can clean windows using chems as a boost & pure. I've found using that method works very well but need to rinse much more to help reduce spotting & drip marks as the glass dries out. Vents like that will give you the most issues getting them soaking wet like that too.

If I can reach the frames etc on the ground floor I sometimes rag & magic sponge them first like this example.

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If I need to restore plastic on first floor and above I have 3 methods I could use.

I would defo not offer a first window clean for free but often include a free window clean on a full exterior deep clean (added into the price already so its not really free) :Image13:

I don't charge extra for 1st cleans, but I do make the customer aware that that the 1st clean is not always 100%. before i do them..Normally the 2nd time they are 100%.

I could charge them double and go over them twice, but my way seem to work for me.

good video always been on my mind how you get them spotless on first cleans

going into W F P this is the method i will use for first cleans

to me they have to be perfect when finished

Use ecover sprayed on to your brush or g101 or something like that on a first clean and rinse well will come up good everytime! i do lots of first cleans and thats the method i use!

just like in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCYt3eEWYZY

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This is the washing up liquid variant of the Ecover? If so at what water/soap ratio do you use roughly?

I would be interested to know the answer to this one also ...

Yes Ecover the washing up liquid variant.

What I do, don't know about anyone else, just a squirt in a bucket fill with water, and dip brush into water.

Only did this once though.

I use a Hybrid teckbuk brush, which has boars hair in the centre good for first cleans and maintenance cleans...but ideally you need a full boars hair brush for first cleans.

No need for soap on windows etc to get them really clean....

@ Vinny & Chimera. Squirt some ecover on the scrubbing bristles, scrub the frame, scrub the glass, rinse, scrub frame and window again, rinse, rinse and rinse. Move to next window and do the same. Then go back to first window and rinse for luck and so on. I did two first cleans this morning, it took me an hour, but they are clean and spot free.

PS, using the ecover on the brush makes a nice froth, this in turn shows you where you have and have not rinsed.

Good shout tuffers

I too am ecover fan. Spray it on brush or straight on glass also dip in bucket sometimes.

Works best with lots of water imo

Also try Star Drops on upvc . Its good for stubborn and green grimy frames.

Which one works best, Lemon & Aloe Vera or the Camomile & Marigold.... :Image14:

Using hot/warm pure water also helps on first cleans to break down dirt, lichen, algae etc but again rinse well to help avoid spotting & drip marks.

May I add having the right flow rate, brush and type of jets you use all helps too...

I went for the lemon one ...

They do pomegranate too, true fact that ;-)