Andy
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I'm voting to come out. That will stop 300,000 window cleaner's entering the country each year.
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or 300,000 potential new customers!I'm voting to come out. That will stop 300,000 window cleaner's entering the country each year.
i think your bang on, but we have no say over the men at the top, they use politicians yes, so its only politicians we can get at & not even that much anyroadLet me just throw this into the discussion, who do you think really controls things, politicians? It seems to me we shouldn't under estimate the influence of those who sit at the top of the big financial institutions. Those who control money, control power! That's capitalism & the world we live in. Gordy Brown "chose" to let public spending get out of control and saved nothing for the enevitable rainy day. Cameron's lot still haven't got the counties national debt under control. But the root of these problems came from the financial world, and the abuse of the power it posses. So by all means give the politicians a good kick in but don't forget the master who pull their strings.
god ive got a migraine now & i'm still none the wisersome light reading for the weekend for those who are interested.
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The UK Should Leave the European Union | | Debatewise - where great minds differ
Jacob.....could this be part of their Master Plan.......Eu is developing into a dictator state and i am pretty sure thats thier master plan, take a little slice inch by inch so we dont see the thing coming until it there. Also i brlieve their is some bigger plan behind the.massive migration from the.middleeast, it is a grest way to destabilise the whole eu, and when thats happen Merkel and her crew take over like a proper dictator. Thr Eu is hitlers sequel, he didnt succed through war, so now the German is taking over through economy. Thats my views on it.
Well that's probably not bad thing, it shows you are keeping an open mind & accepting the merit of both sides of the arguement.god ive got a migraine now & i'm still none the wiser
yeah out we go :laugh:Well that's probably not bad thing, it shows you are keeping an open mind & accepting the merit of both sides of the arguement.
IMHO this referendum represents one of the most important votes we are likely to cast in our lives, the last in / out vote for the then common market was over 40 years ago. So I hope everyone uses their right to vote, which ever way they go.
Some very good points there Dave.Here my story
I have always been pro EU but that is starting to changed
About 14 years Poland and some other eastern european countries migration to the uk (mostly England & london) which I always believe it was a good thing, I remember British people at the time complaining easten European are driving down our wages and taking our jobs and so on which I've always disagree with.
I've met many polish people and eastern european over the years where i live and some of them are some of the best people I know, they might be catholic or a church goer but most of them mostly share the same way of life we do and just want to blend in and work minding their own business.
My problem with the EU now it becoming less and less european as the years go by because of Germany / France on non-European immigrants.
We are letting anyone in unchecked and those immigrants in Germany, France and many others northern European countries wont be kicked out once their in and one day they will be entitled to a passport which mean the free movements we have at the moment is not working for us because what to stop the immigrants who are not European coming over here with a European passport.
We are too full up, our NHS crisis and the ridiculous property market reflex this.
Here my story
I have always been pro EU but that is starting to changed
About 14 years Poland and some other eastern european countries migration to the uk (mostly England & london) which I always believe it was a good thing, I remember British people at the time complaining easten European are driving down our wages and taking our jobs and so on which I've always disagree with.
I've met many polish people and eastern european over the years where i live and some of them are some of the best people I know, they might be catholic or a church goer but most of them mostly share the same way of life we do and just want to blend in and work minding their own business.
My problem with the EU now it becoming less and less european as the years go by because of Germany / France on non-European immigrants.
We are letting anyone in unchecked and those immigrants in Germany, France and many others northern European countries wont be kicked out once their in and one day they will be entitled to a passport which mean the free movements we have at the moment is not working for us because what to stop the immigrants who are not European coming over here with a European passport.
We are too full up, our NHS crisis and the ridiculous property market reflex this.
i want the best for me n my kids & i would vote for whichever that is if i knew, i don't trust what politicians say n i deff dont trust newspaper opinion, so how the hell do i cast my vote, i think too many people will just go with their hearts n that will be england rules n **** europe we dont need em, which i understand but im not sure its right. i'm english not british or europen but i dont mind being part of itWell that's probably not bad thing, it shows you are keeping an open mind & accepting the merit of both sides of the arguement.
IMHO this referendum represents one of the most important votes we are likely to cast in our lives, the last in / out vote for the then common market was over 40 years ago. So I hope everyone uses their right to vote, which ever way they go.