Do I need a second pole for spraying?

[Joe Preston]

Anyone know where  i can get something like this where I can connect to my waterfed pole to spray the cleaning product on the facia and soffits ect.  Thanks in advance 

 

[Pjj]

Ben at Rutland pumps sells nozzles that will fit in the end of Gardiner poles  like the pictures below or if you have a sprayer connect your pole to that and apply chemicals like that 

 

[Deleted member 7446]

Anyone know where  i can get something like this where I can connect to my waterfed pole to spray the cleaning product on the facia and soffits ect.  Thanks in advance 

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A quick search of Google could of answered that

The new Gutter vacuum systems Ltd GVS Applicator 

DA components 

Window cleaning warehouse 

Wintecs 

Bladeright 

 

[ched999uk]

Gardiners also sell a quickLoc adapter with a jet capsule for spraying https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/quick-loq-single-jet-holder-connector.html

 

[Jango]

@Pjj They don’t do that one anymore. It’s a plastic version now. To be honest I bought one but it is still sitting in my tool box. Never used. I use a garden sprayer attached to an old pole. ?

 

[Iron Giant]

Don't see the point, if you are using a backpack which I assume you are, then just stick some fan jets in your brush and spray away works exactly the same 

 

[dazmond]

Don't see the point, if you are using a backpack which I assume you are, then just stick some fan jets in your brush and spray away works exactly the same 

I agree with this....I just use a backpack for chemical application and use my wfp then swap back to my hot ? water for rinsing and scrubbing....job  done  

 

[kevinc250]

you have hot water daz?

 

[Deleted member 7446]

Don't see the point, if you are using a backpack which I assume you are, then just stick some fan jets in your brush and spray away works exactly the same 

The only issue I would note is cross contamination of your equipment if using chemicals

I have a separate pole, hose & brush for this task 

 

[Davy G]

We use a backpack on a trolley solely for our soapmix. We apply it through one of our normal wf poles. Then we connect the same pole to the customer's outside water supply to do the wash on the gfs, windows and doors. Finally we connect the same pole to a pure water reel for the final rinse of the glass. Never had any issues. By the time the mains water and/or pure water has gone through the pole and brush any chemical traces of significance have washed through to clear water.

 

[Iron Giant]

The only issue I would note is cross contamination of your equipment if using chemicals

I have a separate pole, hose & brush for this task 

I used to do that, but found it faff with having two set ups with the van and the backpack for application, in the end I have almost completely dropped add ons apart from easy ones but they are very few and far between for me

 

[kevinc250]

The only issue I would note is cross contamination of your equipment if using chemicals

I have a separate pole, hose & brush for this task 

if i'm honest austin, thats a very old school way of thinking, a bit like the scare mongering those on ciu do,

take it another way,  apply the chems with your normal pole and brush like @Davy Gsaid use the customers tap water and then pure to finish the job, that way you are either de-contaminating or working from dirty to clean-two different phrases but exactly the same result at the end of the job if done properly the pole hose and brush will be clean and ready to clean the glass- theres no need for a separate pole or hose or brush.

 

[Deleted member 7446]

if i'm honest austin, thats a very old school way of thinking, a bit like the scare mongering those on ciu do,

take it another way,  apply the chems with your normal pole and brush like @Davy Gsaid use the customers tap water and then pure to finish the job, that way you are either de-contaminating or working from dirty to clean-two different phrases but exactly the same result at the end of the job if done properly the pole hose and brush will be clean and ready to clean the glass- theres no need for a separate pole or hose or brush.

My only point is that old school is sometimes best. Make equipment last longer if used for specific tasks. Less wear. If someone sprayed a chemical on a roof tile for example from a brush jet and then proceeded to agitate the surface then move onto windows you have the potential of scratches etc.

Only made that point as not to lead our fellow new starters into bad habits and damage cases

 

[Ian Docksey]

The only issue I would note is cross contamination of your equipment if using chemicals

I have a separate pole, hose & brush for this task 

Yep, same here, when I was looking at starting up, this was a concern of mine. So took advice from the forum, and got a separate pole a 2nd backpack just for using chemicals.

 

[kevinc250]

Yep, same here, when I was looking at starting up, this was a concern of mine. So took advice from the forum, and got a separate pole a 2nd backpack just for using chemicals.

not the best advice ian if i'm honest, given by someone who has no idea of what he's doing, (only you will know whom).

lets analise your quote,

seperate pole, why? the pole has no relevance to the cleaning process other than conveying the chemicals to the required place-no need for a seperate pole.some would advise buy a cheaper pole for these jobs but you would have being better using one high quality one-the same as you would for the windows,advice thats well out of date. a cheaper pole for these jobs just makes it harder and a lot slower so you earn less per hour.

a 2nd backpack, ok if you use a backpack as a day to day tool then yes its always better to have a back up in case something goes wrong-which it does from time to time.

a seperate one for chems? why? just fill the back pack with water after use and purge/dilute the residue thats left within the back pack and empty it via the pump ie pump on half way and connect to the pole and let the water flow out via the brush, its that easy and has no long term damage to the pump which would be around £20 odd to replace if it did go wrong.

 

[Ian Docksey]

not the best advice ian if i'm honest, given by someone who has no idea of what he's doing, (only you will know whom).

lets analise your quote,

seperate pole, why? the pole has no relevance to the cleaning process other than conveying the chemicals to the required place-no need for a seperate pole.some would buy a cheaper pole for these jobs but you would have being better using one high quality one-the same as you would for the windows,advice thats well out of date. a cheaper pole for these jobs just makes it harder and a lot slower so you earn less per hour.

a 2nd backpack, ok if you use a backpack as a day to day tool then yes its always better to have a back up in case something goes wrong-which it does from time to time.

a seperate one for chems? why? just fill the back pack with water after use and purge/dilute the residue thats left within the back pack and empty it via the pump ie pump on half way and connect to the pole and let the water flow out via the brush, its that easy and has no long term damage to the pump which would be around £20 odd to replace if it did go wrong.

I use univalves in my 2 day to day poles. Which I don't fancy putting mains pressure through. Also I didn't like the thought of the chance of any cross contamination in the pole hose. 

I use my van system for normal jobs. A backpack for pure water only for terraced properties I have to go through to get the backs dine.

So I got a gardener 27 clx and a spare backpack for spraying chemicals and using mains water through , for GFS ,conny roof work. 

It works for me ,and more importantly gives me peace of mind, that only pure goes through my day to day poles.

 

[Ian Docksey]

not the best advice ian if i'm honest, given by someone who has no idea of what he's doing, (only you will know whom).

lets analise your quote,

seperate pole, why? the pole has no relevance to the cleaning process other than conveying the chemicals to the required place-no need for a seperate pole.some would advise buy a cheaper pole for these jobs but you would have being better using one high quality one-the same as you would for the windows,advice thats well out of date. a cheaper pole for these jobs just makes it harder and a lot slower so you earn less per hour.

a 2nd backpack, ok if you use a backpack as a day to day tool then yes its always better to have a back up in case something goes wrong-which it does from time to time.

a seperate one for chems? why? just fill the back pack with water after use and purge/dilute the residue thats left within the back pack and empty it via the pump ie pump on half way and connect to the pole and let the water flow out via the brush, its that easy and has no long term damage to the pump which would be around £20 odd to replace if it did go wrong.

I also believe, that it was not bad advice, I was advised the way you do it and the way I now do it. Neither were bad bits of advice. It's how you think it's going to work for yourself when getting set up to start. I chose the option I do. Others may choose the other option. The joy of weighing advice up and going with what you think . 

 

[Davy G]

Just to clarify ; I have one backpack. It only gets used for our soapmix. Never for pure water. I tried using it for both in the early days but I could never flush the mix out satisfactorily. It always left bubbles on the glass. The soapmix stays in the backpack and is topped up with the mix and with tap water as needed. All our poles are configured the same way, with Hoseless and Univalves. Whichever pole is used for the soapwash (SLX 22 over 90% of the time ) is also used for the tap water wash out and rinse down. Then I either use the same pole or my Extreme 22 for the final pure water rinse. It could hardly be simpler or quicker.

 

[kevinc250]

I use univalves in my 2 day to day poles. Which I don't fancy putting mains pressure through. Also I didn't like the thought of the chance of any cross contamination in the pole hose. 

I use my van system for normal jobs. A backpack for pure water only for terraced properties I have to go through to get the backs dine.

So I got a gardener 27 clx and a spare backpack for spraying chemicals and using mains water through , for GFS ,conny roof work. 

It works for me ,and more importantly gives me peace of mind, that only pure goes through my day to day poles.

whats your every day pole ian?

 

[Ian Docksey]

whats your every day pole ian?

Slx 22 and slx 30 with extention on it

 

[Pjj]

I use univalves in my 2 day to day poles. Which I don't fancy putting mains pressure through. Also I didn't like the thought of the chance of any cross contamination in the pole hose. 

I use my van system for normal jobs. A backpack for pure water only for terraced properties I have to go through to get the backs dine.

So I got a gardener 27 clx and a spare backpack for spraying chemicals and using mains water through , for GFS ,conny roof work. 

It works for me ,and more importantly gives me peace of mind, that only pure goes through my day to day poles.

I dont think univalves are supposed to be used with chemicals ??? But apart from that chemicals in a back pack or pole shouldn’t hurt anything with regards to window cleaning if flushed through with fresh water after use , we use our  poles for applying hypo mixes and flush them through after  without any problems, the hypo does  make the pole hose go brittle and crack after a few months though , but that’s the only thing we have found .