Ionic 'Hot Box' ??

[Ryan's Window Cleaning]

Hi,

I'm not doing another 'which hot water system?' but I'm just specifically after any info on the Ionic hot box. They can add it too 'any' cold water system apparently. For £3000+vat. Is it worth that? Does anybody have one? Ta.

 

[Nicky]

Yes Ryan, we have the loinc hot box the 9kw, great system been using it for over 5 years now,a bit pricy but I wouldn't be without it now,

I think it's the best hot water system on the market

 

[Ryan's Window Cleaning]

Yes Ryan, we have the loinc hot box the 9kw, great system been using it for over 5 years now,a bit pricy but I wouldn't be without it now,I think it's the best hot water system on the market

How much diesel do you use a week? How much do you work a week?

 

[Nicky]

How much diesel do you use a week? How much do you work a week?

I don't really know exactly how much extra diesel I use as it's connected to the main fuel tank £10a week ? I work 5 full days and the odd Saturday and my weekly fuel bill is £60 , the hot box works the same hours ,hope this helps.

when I get a new van I will have the hot box connected to it's own tank inside the van and use red diesel .

 

[Pjj]

They burn 1.1 ltrs per hour , I've got a Grippatank one but it's the same burner excellent piece of kit but not cheap to run it's doubled my weekly fuel bill

 

[doug atkinson]

I know someone who has just purchased one and has had no end of problems and is now broken down awaiting parts after a few months.

With the Ionics system you can only run one pump and there is not frost stat protection.

On Grippa max system as soon as it's 2 degrees at night the frost stat will kick in and circulate the water through the heater through your hose and back into the tank so stops it from freezing. Ionics does not do this.

Grippa 9 kw can run two pumps, Ionics can not.

The control on the Ionics system is a basic dial whereas the controller on Grippa is more high spec.

Basically you pay for what your getting. Grippamax is a lot higher spec

 

[spruce]

I don't really know exactly how much extra diesel I use as it's connected to the main fuel tank £10a week ? I work 5 full days and the odd Saturday and my weekly fuel bill is £60 , the hot box works the same hours ,hope this helps.when I get a new van I will have the hot box connected to it's own tank inside the van and use red diesel .

Better staying with your current setup of drawing diesel from the van's tank imho. Webasto diesel heaters do not work well on red diesel. Doing a search on the boat forums will provide you with lots of info. What you save on your fuel bill you will spend on your repair bill.

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[doug atkinson]

If you use red diesel then the Webasto warranty is void.

Webasto have a network of engineers so if anything goes wrong under warranty they will fix it FOC

 

[Iron Giant]

If you are able to safely run electric to your van overnight then go down the immersion heater route, Pretty sure Stephen Scargill could build you a bespoke insulated tank for less than £3,000

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[doug atkinson]

This was a system that was done at Daqua with the new cabinet and have to say looks very smart and top class engineering.

 

[Iron Giant]

This was a system that was done at Daqua with the new cabinet and have to say looks very smart and top class engineering.

Who's made the tank Doug

 

[doug atkinson]

Who's made the tank Doug

Grippa Tank. They are now looking the biz with the upgrades and that's what I like it is always being developed and out classes Ionics Systems in specifications

 

[Iron Giant]

Ionics have always been way way overpriced for what they offer , But Stephen Scargill of www.aquaeouspf.co.uk produces some really innovative designs the customers specs go to www.facebook.com/groups/1526003394351183/

If I was to buy a new tank with controllers mounted etc I wouldn't use anyone else his baffles are basically grid pattern inside and lots of guys sing his praises .

 

[Lennie]

The control on the Ionics system is a basic dial whereas the controller on Grippa is more high spec.
Basically you pay for what your getting. Grippamax is a lot higher spec

I'm not sure, I may be right, may be wrong,

Speaking to someone who has a Grippa hot water webasto system and he said that the hot water control is just a simple dial and no way to tell or set ( other than turn the dial ) the temperature of the hot water. A separate thermometer is required to test the temperature at the brush. Maybe things have changed and he has an old model, but it's only just over a year old.

 

[spruce]

I'm not sure, I may be right, may be wrong,Speaking to someone who has a Grippa hot water webasto system and he said that the hot water control is just a simple dial and no way to tell or set ( other than turn the dial ) the temperature of the hot water. A separate thermometer is required to test the temperature at the brush. Maybe things have changed and he has an old model, but it's only just over a year old.

Most use a water to water plate heat exchanger and a thermostatic mixer valve.

WEBASTO or EBERSPACHER Instant Hot Water Heat Exchanger Thermostatic Mixer Kit

Turn the mixer valve to + (plus) - water gets hotter; turn to - (minus) water gets cooler.

If you need to know the temperature out of the unit to your hose then you fit a digital 12v temperature controller.

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