Liquidator pole work

[Tim Osborne]

You can put the pad either way upJust depends whether you attach it over the top of the handle or underneath

Thanks so much. It is hard to get this all figured out so I will buy the right stuff and not waist £££.

 

[Dave B]

You don't even need a liquidator channel if you cut the angle and dogear the wagtail one

I always recommend the liquidator though for people not used to modding tools as it works straight out the box

I have done in the past but don't bother with using it on top floor windows nowadays but it comes into it's own on high ground floor stuff and over obstacles etc

You can use Wagga's technique of straight pulls on a pole but fanning is so much better

 

[Dave B]

This is a good vid anyway but 2 minutes 50 in it shows the technique i use with my wag on pole for any big window

Smaller ones same principle just have to think and be creative like start sideways etc to find a way that works

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[boarcity]

That's what I was thinking as the wagtail scrubber may not be wide enough to flip over the top of handle. Hard to figure all this out when I don't have all the gear in my hands yet.

whatever you use it has to be flexible enuf to bend on itself "at the hinge/clip " area .though you can encourage the hinge action using a stanley knife to weaken the material

what doesnt work in my experience is using a cut down regular applicator sleeve-these are far too heavy once its loaded with water- though you can trim the fur thinning it out with a blade that takes time to get right

 

[boarcity]

That's what I was thinking as the wagtail scrubber may not be wide enough to flip over the top of handle. Hard to figure all this out when I don't have all the gear in my hands yet.

it just so happens amongst my stuff iv got this 18inch flipper pad,the original sort that were fitted to the yellow flipper View attachment 6670 . these flip very easily .never used, if you want it tim its yours gratis.

 

[Tim Osborne]

it just so happens amongst my stuff iv got this 18inch flipper pad,the original sort that were fitted to the yellow flipper View attachment 9567 . these flip very easily .never used, if you want it tim its yours gratis.

Wow that is very kind of you. I live in Ireland now but my Daughter still lives in uk near Derbyshire. If i pay for shipping can you send to her address?

 

[boarcity]

Wow that is very kind of you. I live in Ireland now but my Daughter still lives in uk near Derbyshire. If i pay for shipping can you send to her address?

gratis means gratis. put your address here and i will post it off monday to you in ireland

 

[Tim Osborne]

gratis means gratis. put your address here and i will post it off monday to you in ireland

Thanks again. My address is:

San Antonio

Clanmaurice Avenue

North Circular Road

Limerick, Ireland V94 H3NY

 

[boarcity]

Thanks again. My address is:San Antonio

Clanmaurice Avenue

North Circular Road

Limerick, Ireland V94 H3NY

no worrys. im a real wagtail/ liquidator afficianado ,theyre superb for trad and as iv a crew of workers iv built up a real stash of wags and wag bits over the yrs. im happy to help you out

 

[Eric Gilliand]

I find the 14" flipper (Wagulator) is the best combo for pole and in hand. The weight, wet, of the original pad and squeegee is still fine. The maximum length for dual tasks that I personally am comfortable with was the 16" but Moerman don't do that length (and I just can't bring myself to cut down a longer one). The 18" flipper is excellent for large modern domestic or commercial glass, but, on a pole. In hand over a day can prove to be quite tiring. I have modded a handle to optimise my bare 18" Liquidator, but won't go into it here as your head is probably already spinning. /emoticons/smile.png Totally agree with Boarcity. Stay away from the temptation of heavier pads. The new clips on the Wagtails work superbly with either flip under, or over with the blue or the yellow pads.

 

[Eric Gilliand]

Whew! Talk about a YouTube feast! New vids by Polz, Luke the Window Cleaner, Wagga, Steve-O and Window Washing Services...Spring must be near for you Northern Hemisphere guys

 

[Dave B]

@Eric Gilliand what other mods do you do to your handles?

I do the 20° bend but don't do zip ties or anything lke that

 

[Eric Gilliand]

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@Eric Gilliand what other mods do you do to your handles?I do the 20° bend but don't do zip ties or anything lke that

 

[Dave B]

Properly modded then

 

[Eric Gilliand]

Properly modded then

Im pretty sure the term is OCD Davey...

 

[Dave B]

I think it's just the way we are

I can't help modding things that don't have any problems anyway

 

[Tim Osborne]

I find the 14" flipper (Wagulator) is the best combo for pole and in hand. The weight, wet, of the original pad and squeegee is still fine. The maximum length for dual tasks that I personally am comfortable with was the 16" but Moerman don't do that length (and I just can't bring myself to cut down a longer one). The 18" flipper is excellent for large modern domestic or commercial glass, but, on a pole. In hand over a day can prove to be quite tiring. I have modded a handle to optimise my bare 18" Liquidator, but won't go into it here as your head is probably already spinning. /emoticons/smile.png Totally agree with Boarcity. Stay away from the temptation of heavier pads. The new clips on the Wagtails work superbly with either flip under, or over with the blue or the yellow pads.

Thanks for tips. I have some big shop windows I do now with applicator and pull downs with sqeegee. But I find it slow and often I have to resoap. It is very slow. But the setup with wagtail flapper and 18 Liquidator should speed things up. Once I master that setup I will get a 12 or 14 setup for resi's.

 

[Dave B]

The 18 is the hardest to learn with as the smaller the easier

Once you have that sorted the smaller sizes will be easy to use

 

[Eric Gilliand]

I think it's just the way we areI can't help modding things that don't have any problems anyway

All of the mods in the pic were worked out over a couple of years. The first one was the smooth shanked bolt because the thread on the original screw would wear away at the disc hole and you ended up with 'slop' in the pivot. The SS washer on disc (top and bottom) create a bearing like effect against the smooth shank and after almost 2 years is still mm accurate. The collet that is on the PC I dispensed with and added my own SS "slim collet". Brings the centre of gravity nice and flat against the disc and gives that really nice feel that the original under disc handles have, but with the advantage of better clearance on deep sills. Goes without saying heat gun on handle and bend down to 20 degrees. The little hook adds more stability as it fits under the disc give support for the handle on both sides. This was the final tweak that allowed me to enjoy using an 18" Liquidator with almost total control...They work fine out of the box...but...can be infinitely refined for your own particular workflow.

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[Dave B]

Nice @Eric Gilliand

I can see how every one of those mods would improve the tool

I saw a vid on youtube by ryu in which he totally alters a wagtail handles ergonomics with a heat gun and then adds 2 springs

Would be interested to see how that works although it is a lot of effort

You have to skip through the vid a bit as a lot of it is just him heating the handle

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[Eric Gilliand]

Nice @Eric GilliandI can see how every one of those mods would improve the tool

I saw a vid on youtube by ryu in which he totally alters a wagtail handles ergonomics with a heat gun and then adds 2 springs

Would be interested to see how that works although it is a lot of effort

You have to skip through the vid a bit as a lot of it is just him heating the handle

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I subscribe to Ryu's channel. That one with bending the handle is interesting. Can't quite get my head around his thinking. The obvious thing is to use an angle adaptor to achieve this but it would be fun to destroy one of Willie's handles (I've got about 20) to work out "the why" of it. He's been a bit quiet of late but I really enjoy his thinking. My fav of his is his elegant rebuild of a Wag using an Ettore Contour handle, springs and an Unger Super channel. Amazing piece of engineering. Been meaning to do one myself "just for the hell of it" ... but I break into a sweat whenever I contemplate destroying the Ettore handle...