More info on van want to buy, worth it?

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  1. slippy

    slippy Well-Known Member
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    The MOT history of van thinking of buying this reg- WK52HCC (Ford)
    Vehicle MOT History - GOV.UK

    seems like it needs welding next year (but that's cheap) and it sailed through last MOT (mechanic said this)

    400 + 170(insurance) + 240(tax) + 100 pounds ( locks) so 900 pounds.

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    It would mean could do purifying in van with in van twin DI or RO so would be more convenient than a car with barrels. I am P/T (Saturdays windows- but want to expand and some gardening in week).

    if wanted to do some mowing or window cleaning in the afternoon it would be easier. I finish my main job at 1 pm. With car need to load barrels in and out, cant really get mower. With van just shoot off wherever and tank is always ready with water. Might lose this morning job!

    With car it's more inconvenient and impossible for mower.

    Worth buying it?
     
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  2. High-tower

    High-tower Active Member
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    None of us can make that decision for you... If you can afford it, go for it... Sounds like you've made your mind up already...
     
  3. spruce

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    #3 spruce, Mar 17, 2016
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    Personally I wouldn't buy it. Next years MOT could be a total not worth repairing failure. But I may be biased having worked in the commercial vehicle industry for 6 years before doing this. I saw plenty of emotional decisions that didn't work out because customers had a 'vision' which was different to the reality.

    You are going to use it to run a business, you aren't a classic collector who will throw endless amounts of money at a project to return it to as new condition. You can't afford to have it parked up whilst you consider what next to do with it. The decision you need to make is an economic and commercial one, not made on any emotion.

    I would be looking at a Berlingo/Partner 1.9 or 2.0 hdi. They were galvanised dipped to about a 1/3rd of the way up their body. Whilst that does guarantee that brake pipes etc won't corrode at least the base will be solid.

    If you have £900 to spend then its better to use that as a deposit to buy something better and use the business to pay it off. There no such thing in a successful business as being half pregnant.

    If your family car sits on the drive for a month, its not the end of the world as you can catch a taxi, a bus, walk, etc.
    If your work van sits on the drive for a month then you can't work. Not working means no income. That's the reality.
     
  4. Nathan_M

    Nathan_M Northern Cleaning & Maintenance
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    I have to agree with spruce here.
    My brother had one of those and I know a few people who's had them, the paintwork is terrible on them and so it the underneath of the vehicles. It might not be now but give it time and they go.
    At the end of the day it's your choice mate, it could be one of the best vans you ever have BUT on the other hand it could be a nightmare, With anything it's all about risk. I bought a car that flew through MOT and didn't have any advisories, great I thought, oh was I wrong. Had nowt but problems with the thing and it gets to a point where it's too much money to put into a vehicle.
    A guy I did work with for a while had an estate car (can't remember what make) on an 02 plate from pretty much new, he bought it for let's say £8,000 and through the years has spent something stupid like £11000 which is more than the cars worth.
    Again it's totally upto you mate but if I were you, I'd either look at the vans spruce said or something like peugeot expert, citreon dispatch or fiat scudo.. that's what I've got and it's a machine.
    Let us know what you decide buddy :)
     
  5. slippy

    slippy Well-Known Member
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    #5 slippy, Mar 17, 2016
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    Good points- but it has had a new cam belt, clutch and tyres. The mechanics who are his neighbours said it sailed through MOT but will need welding next year. If the van isn't working- I will still have the car and can use the barrels and trolley. I won't stop working. But this is all for a P/T job at present which I am trying to expand as currently in another job which I will get fired from eventually!

    When purifying the water, with the car I will be sitting in there with hose pipe running from flat window through two DIs into barrels which I load into car, then have to drive up to my garage and put all this gear back in garage- lot of faffing around. All the old biddies watching me in other flats!

    Regarding kids, is it illegal to put a 15 month old (in a child seat) in the front seat of a van? If true getting a 3 seater van is irrelevant. And how doable is it to put another (bolt it in) in the back of a van for the kiddy?
     
  6. tlwcs

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    I think you've already bought this in your mind, but you keep asking the same question. If something is saying don't do it, don't buy it.
    There will be others.
    Tony
     
  7. Nathan_M

    Nathan_M Northern Cleaning & Maintenance
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    I'd personally get a 3 seater van.
    We got rid of the car to get a van (as it's easier with a van mount system) I had chance of a 2 seater van but wasn't worth it. If you want a decent 3 seater and don't want a big van like a transit, look at a peugeot expert, citroen dispatch or fiat scudo.
    Again it's upto you but I wouldn't spend £900 (altogether) on that type of van, I'd go for something abit bigger.
     
  8. slippy

    slippy Well-Known Member
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    I agree with everything you've said but might make him an offer of £175 and forget new locks- so £220 tax + £160 ins + £175= £560- surely worth the risk? Just scrap it and get £150.
     
  9. Nathan_M

    Nathan_M Northern Cleaning & Maintenance
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    £220+£160+£175=£555 then scrap it for £150 and you've lost £405, when you could get abit better van and not have to scrap it or lose money ;)
    What's wrong with the locks? slippy
     
  10. slippy

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    Well the door locks don't work in the drivers door -completely needs replacing. But for the price I would pay just don't keep anything in it except water tank I suppose. The seller said to replace them would cost £100. I genuinely think the engine's sound and it runs well, it is just rusty! If this runs for 2 years surely it's worth the risk. Also with a water tank in the back dripping out surely that would rust any van anyhow so better to mess up old banger? Apparently, the seller is thinking of scrapping it now- or so I keep hearing through friend who hears through mechanic(his neighbour) If I have a major problem with it and it's going to cost I could just scrap it myself!

    If you scrap a vehicle half way through insurance and road tax- do you part of this money back?

    What are rules on putting a child's seat in front passenger seat or can you put a seat for 15 month old in back of van?
     
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