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  1. simon

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    my lad's decided he will try n make a proper go of window cleaning so,
    how much does it cost to take him as a full employee??
    can i make him go self employed & give him some work which he will give me a % of ??

    :( or is it all doomed to stress & fall outs lol
     
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  2. Damo

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    Depending on what you pay him somewhere between 80-109£ per day.

    That's allowing for pay/tax/holiday pay etc.

    He would be better being self employed obviously.
     
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    With that you have suggested with the % idea wouldn't float with HMRC. He would be classed as employed.
     
  4. Green Pro Clean Ltd

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    This is an interesting dilemma.

    From 8-5 each day can you treat him as an employee as opposed to a son? If so take him under your wing and give him the benefit of your experience and guidance.

    Alternatively if he is ready to give you a run for your money, set him up on his own with a van and gear and then share out the work load, instead of taking a percentage look at it as securing your boys future, also as tow separate companies you can pass work here and there and possible legitimately stay below the VAT threshold with you both being on good earnings.
     
  5. dt clean

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    round our way people pay between 40 & 90 per day for workers. They often pay cash and see it as the workers responsibility to sort tax and ni and effectively they are self employed. pay peanuts get monkeys.
     
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    They will have a shock when HMRC catch up and tell them otherwise.

    Simply paying someone cash in hand does not make them self employed.
     
  7. dt clean

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    im not saying that's how it should be done. I had my lad sign a waiver to say he is to take care of his own ni and tax. I recommended getting an accountant. The work is subcontracted to him officially. There is no proof of ownership on the work.
     
  8. dt clean

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    Where I live there are at least 25 window cleaning businesses in the town alone and they cover pretty much all of Cheshire. I think there's at least 100 lads getting paid cash in hand
     
  9. Green Pro Clean Ltd

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    dt clean there are probably more than 25 just in my postcode of NG4 alone. Just because there are many doing it it does not make it legal, I personally think we should all do things in a 100% legit manor then perhaps people will stop perceiving window cleaners as 'cash in hand top up the beer money' types and start taking us as serious businesses.
     
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  10. dt clean

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    I agree but I don't worry about what I can't change I just make sure I'm doing things by the book.
     
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