Scratching Sill's with brush

[Rigo]

Hi everyone, can someone tell me if it's possible to scratch pvc sill. Today I had a customer cancel future cleans due to all bedroom/bathroom Sill's were being left with scratches??? If this is possible can someone tell me what to do to overcome this issue

Robert

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[scottish cleaning service]

You can buy a rubber bumper guard for a fiver on Gardiners website. It will probably be the hard plastic on the brush body I guess.

 

[Rigo]

You can buy a rubber bumper guard for a fiver on Gardiners website. It will probably be the hard plastic on the brush body I guess.

Thank you

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[Cookie]

Yes it is possible to leave black lines on the PVC from the brush head (I did myself when I started out). You just need to angle the brush in such a way that you don't scratch the sill. I found those brush bumpers from Gardiners pretty useless TBH, they trap all the dirt & cobwebs & then disintegrate on the corners - better to just adjust your style of cleaning if you can.

You can quite easily remove the marks on PVC with Astonish paste.

 

[steve garwood]

When I switched to WFP around 9-10 years back, I lost a couple of customers because I’d scratched the sills.

Its caused by the stock of the brush rubbing along the sill.

I switched over to sill brush’s which not only resolved this, but, i.m.o, makes a much better job of removing algae etc.

The downside of the sill brush is the weight of it. Wish they could make a lightweight version 

 

[Rigo]

Cheers

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[Chris Finley]

A friend of mine scratched some sills think he used car t cut to sort them out... never tried myself, but if works well a good tip I guess. I actually think the bristles themselves do leave some lines eventually on the uPVC frames, the coating must wear down on the frames if you look close enough u may see some lines where we scrub the frames. Obviously I don't point it out to the customer !

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[RWCleaning]

I’ve never had a complaint in 4 years, but I’m pretty confident I’ve scratched loads of sills tbh. I bought the Gardiner bumper thing last month, not that good. Falls off two or three times a day. 

 

[Teaboy]

Get them from rushing,
Plenty of products that you can get to rub them out


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[brianbadonde]

I've done this. 

Switched to a sill brush and no further problems. Problem with the regular brushes is you then need to collapse the pole, then re-angle them to then clean the sill. Gardiners sill brush works a treat and I don't find these too heavy. 

 

[Bumblebee72]

When I switched to WFP around 9-10 years back, I lost a couple of customers because I’d scratched the sills.

Its caused by the stock of the brush rubbing along the sill.

I switched over to sill brush’s which not only resolved this, but, i.m.o, makes a much better job of removing algae etc.

The downside of the sill brush is the weight of it. Wish they could make a lightweight version 

https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/water-fed-poles/brushes/super-lite-radius-sill-brushes/the-super-litear-radius-sill-brush-dual-trim-medium-mixed-bristles.html

We use these.  Much lighter than the original sill brushes.

 

[Green Pro Clean Ltd]

Always used sill brushes. Never had a complaint.  Tried the DuPont brush for a day 2 complaints of scratched sills. 

 

[Iron Giant]

Never had a issue in over 10 years

County Durham Lad

 

[steve garwood]

https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/water-fed-poles/brushes/super-lite-radius-sill-brushes/the-super-litear-radius-sill-brush-dual-trim-medium-mixed-bristles.html

We use these.  Much lighter than the original sill brushes.

Still 225g, that’s not a light brush by any means

 

[Dave Shaw]

Always use a sill brush for this reason. It’s almost impossible to clean the very corners were the sill meets the frame with a normal brush on anything above ground level without scratching something. A longer gooseneck will help but a sill brush is better.


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[Den]

I’ve never had a complaint in 4 years, but I’m pretty confident I’ve scratched loads of sills tbh. I bought the Gardiner bumper thing last month, not that good. Falls off two or three times a day. 

Glue them on that's what I do, I have picked up work because of other cleaners scratching sills.

 

[RWCleaning]

Not a bad idea I suppose  

 

[spruce]

Never had a issue in over 10 years

County Durham Lad
 

Congrats btw on your moderator appointment

 

[Dave Shaw]

I’m not trying to start a war with this one but all the lads posting on this that are 100% wfp can’t really comment on this as they have probably never seen 99% of the higher level sills that they work on and are relying on customer feedback in which 99% of those will never notice either. As I do both methods I am constantly trading windows that I’ve previously poled and I can certainly say that you will be surprised how easily it is to scratch an upper level sill even with many years experience. Sill brushes greatly reduce the risk of this along with a good angle on your gooseneck.


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[Den]

I’m not trying to start a war with this one but all the lads posting on this that are 100% wfp can’t really comment on this as they have probably never seen 99% of the higher level sills that they work on and are relying on customer feedback in which 99% of those will never notice either. As I do both methods I am constantly trading windows that I’ve previously poled and I can certainly say that you will be surprised how easily it is to scratch an upper level sill even with many years experience. Sill brushes greatly reduce the risk of this along with a good angle on your gooseneck.


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I believe you are right I always use the bumpers to reduced the risk of scratching the sills as I said previously I have picked up work because another cleaner round here often scratchs sill.

Dave just out of curiosity why are you constantly tradding windows that have already being waterfed.

 

[Viggers]

I like using the xline sill brushes as they are larger than the gardiner sill brushes, but im currently using the supreme black hybrid from gardiner and seem to be cleaning upstairs sills fine, but as somebody has already said im not going up the ladder to check. Ive been WFP for 11 years and never had a complaint as yet, I know there is always a chance of a call back but at the moment alls good.