WFP vs TRAD

Discussion in 'Traditional Window Cleaning' started by rugbywolf, Apr 29, 2014.

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  1. rugbywolf

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    I don't think wfp guys have got it right, I mean, are they giving a service or not? today, yet again, I have got a customer from a wfp cleaner because he would not go onto a single story flat roof to clean a window. The (wfp) ones I know won't go over garages, wall or gates. and yet it is these windows that customers can't reach, or don't want to leave gates unlocked, which are the ones that they want cleaning the most. I sometimes think that the convenience of wfp is for the operator not the customer.
     
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  2. Luke Elliott

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    Plenty of people out there with WFP and not a clue how to clean a window or maintain it yet alone how to climb onto a roof you occasionally need to do. All the the gear and no idea springs to mind. A lot of customers have judged all window cleaners who use the WFP by one bad experience. It's like a tool. Put a trowel in my hand and I can't build a beautiful stone wall. It's the same with WFP. What's more carbon poles have dramatically reduced how many times I need to get my ladders off.
     
  3. Dodger

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    I do both now and to be honest yes wfp upstair for my convenience and safety not customers but like any self respecting cleaner that does wfp I clean where it will reach and won't climb gates. I can say everything you just said about some tradders so are they giving a service? One bad apple doesn't make the orchard useless.

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  4. Tuffers

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    Do you mean ALL WFP guys or just the ones you've come across? I took a job on because the lady didn't like the trad guy gouging holes in her lawn.

    Plus, I will get the 'A' frame out to unbolt gates and I will go on flat roofs and trad windows where it's a PITA to drag the gear to.

    Maybe I'm not your average WFP operator?
     
  5. rugbywolf

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    This argument about making holes in grass is a bit weak. I was out the other day, all day, and not once put my ladders in or on anyones' garden. Quite a lot these days are slabbed or hard in some way. As for all wfp? Well I can only comment on the ones I have spoken to, and that must be 85%.
     
  6. TolishAPurd

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    Both methods have thier pluses and minuses.
     
  7. Tuffers

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    I'm not arguing, I'm stating a fact, she didn't like holes in the lawn from the ladder. She loves WFP for whatever reason, maybe because I don't cause damage to her property? Ever seen trad blokes kicking the bottom rung to get better grip on a lawn where the window is at an angle?

    If you can do both trad and WFP, then kudos to you.

    What is 85% btw?
     
  8. RiceRocket

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    Ooh another of these threads huh?! *arms self with redundant fibreglass pole* :D
     
  9. TolishAPurd

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    I think its pretty lame when people slate WFpole work, the same as when people slate trad. I've taken on a lot of work from WFPers recently, but thats down to the person, not the system used.
     
  10. Posh

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    It is the person & not the system. Me personally I prefer trad but that's just my preference. I got a job off a wfp guy & the lady showed me the windows & they were horrible. I traded her house except for one window which I did with my backpack. Now I don't claim to be an expert on wfp but the window was 100% better. She asked why. I said either the guy don't know what he's doing or his water is ****. Needless to say I got the job. All trad by the way. Both methods are good. Both have + & -. As I said my preference is trad but wfp does do a good job done right
     
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