windows still dirty

[axelrod]

I have just started using a WFP system. It's just for me to use on my own property. My problem is with the beads of water that are left on the windows,they dry out and leave a dirty mark.

I can wipe the marks off on the downstairs windows but not upstairs. 

Having looked at several window cleaning videos on you tube etc, i can't see that i am doing much wrong.

but i would still appreciate any suggestions.

regards

axelrod

 

[Wind o kleen]

I have just started using a WFP system. It's just for me to use on my own property. My problem is with the beads of water that are left on the windows,they dry out and leave a dirty mark.

I can wipe the marks off on the downstairs windows but not upstairs. 

Having looked at several window cleaning videos on you tube etc, i can't see that i am doing much wrong.

but i would still appreciate any suggestions.

regards

axelrod

Water Straight out of tap ? 

 

[Part Timer]

You're either using poor quality pure water, high TDS, or you haven't cleaned them properly and aren't rinsing enough. Please tell me @Wind o kleen isn't correct ? 

 

[Davy G]

I have just started using a WFP system. It's just for me to use on my own property. My problem is with the beads of water that are left on the windows,they dry out and leave a dirty mark.

I can wipe the marks off on the downstairs windows but not upstairs. 

Having looked at several window cleaning videos on you tube etc, i can't see that i am doing much wrong.

but i would still appreciate any suggestions.

regards

axelrod

They will be the first washes in a long time, I'd guess. Several rounds of good hard scrubbing on the frames and sills, it's vital to get all the dirt and any oxidisation off the frames. Three or four less hard vertical scrubs across the glass and back, perhaps a bit of pressure if it's very dirty.

The final, rinse stage is also very important, a few very quick back and forth sweeps across the glass, just below the top frames. This will form a curtain of water which you then bring down the glass with full width descending sweeps. Keep brush on or almost touching the glass and then onto the sill. 

If you follow this technique to the letter I'm confident you will be sorted. If you have to wipe anything with a cloth or rubber it's an error. At most you can turn the water off to swipe the brush across the sill once it's been thoroughly washed as very often dirt will keep bleeding out from the expansion joint between window and sill. This is for a first or very dirty wash, once you're up and running, you should be aiming for less than 30 seconds, start to finish. I've recently uploaded a YouTube clip. 100 degree fan jets in action, if you want to see my technique for maintenance washes on Windows that are in good order. 

Please let us know how you get on. ?

 

[axelrod]

Thanks for your replies.

yes i am using water straight out of the tap.

I have also gone over the windows with Unger window cleaniing liquid they looked very greasy.

I will check out your video Davy G and i will let you all know if i get any better, i certainly wouldn't make a living out of window cleaning. Using a pole is not as easy as i thought.

thanks once again 

regards 

axelrod

 

[Part Timer]

Thanks for your replies.

yes i am using water straight out of the tap.

I have also gone over the windows with Unger window cleaniing liquid they looked very greasy.

I will check out your video Davy G and i will let you all know if i get any better, i certainly wouldn't make a living out of window cleaning. Using a pole is not as easy as i thought.

thanks once again 

regards 

axelrod

Don't bother as you'll not get clean windows using tap water

 

[spruce]

Thanks for your replies.

yes i am using water straight out of the tap.

I have also gone over the windows with Unger window cleaniing liquid they looked very greasy.

I will check out your video Davy G and i will let you all know if i get any better, i certainly wouldn't make a living out of window cleaning. Using a pole is not as easy as i thought.

thanks once again 

regards 

axelrod

Hi. Your water needs to be purified to remove all the dissolved solids. If you are doing your own window then a di vessel full of resin is probably the best alternative connected to your outside tap.

By the time you buy all the equipment and the resin beads it's probably going to be more cost effective to employ a window cleaner.

 

[Martyn]

I needed a good laugh, I've been involved in a lot of heavy political stuff recently and this was just what I needed. Tap water!!!

 

[Davy G]

Oh, I hadn't realised you were using water straight out of the tap. Wind O Clean was onto it and so was Tango.

You've got next to no chance without purified water as tap water has so many suspended minerals. Get the right (purefied) water and use a good technique and you'll be well away.

Don't even think about trying to use un-processed water for other people's houses or businesses. You'll make a fool of yourself and destroy your reputation before even getting going.

I needed a good laugh, I've been involved in a lot of heavy political stuff recently and this was just what I needed. Tap water!!!

Yeah, but if you don't know you don't know. ?

 

[Martyn]

Yeah, but if you don't know you don't know. ?

Fair comment!

 

[Iron Giant]

Yeah, but if you don't know you don't know. ?

Then come on our forum and ask first. ?

 

[Davy G]

Then come on our forum and ask first. ?

He asked before doing anyone else's. That's the main thing. It's not always easy to know the right time to ask a question. He may not even have known about purefied water. I didn't until it was suggested to me as a career when I was in very difficult financial circumstances six or seven years ago. I'd never heard of it. ?

 

[dmw]

Thanks for your replies.

yes i am using water straight out of the tap.

I have also gone over the windows with Unger window cleaniing liquid they looked very greasy.

I will check out your video Davy G and i will let you all know if i get any better, i certainly wouldn't make a living out of window cleaning. Using a pole is not as easy as i thought.

thanks once again 

regards 

axelrod

Mr Axelrod, Sometimes it's just easier and more cost effective to employ the services of a good local Window Cleaner.

 

[Iron Giant]

He asked before doing anyone else's. That's the main thing. It's not always easy to know the right time to ask a question. He may not even have known about purefied water. I didn't until it was suggested to me as a career when I was in very difficult financial circumstances six or seven years ago. I'd never heard of it. ?

? I'm still surprised these days how I still have some custys asking me how I manage to get the windows so clean with just tap water ? then I have to explain

 

[Martyn]

He asked before doing anyone else's. That's the main thing. It's not always easy to know the right time to ask a question. He may not even have known about purefied water. I didn't until it was suggested to me as a career when I was in very difficult financial circumstances six or seven years ago. I'd never heard of it. ?

Re-reading his post there is no suggestion that he intends becoming a window cleaner, if anything the opposite.

 

[Chris34]

 I'm still ?surprised these days how I still have some custys asking me how I manage to get the windows so clean with just tap water ? then I have to explain

?I'm still surprised these days how I still have some custys asking me how I manage to get the windows so clean with just tap water ? then I have to explain... that you're a wizard and it's magic ?

 

[axelrod]

Hi to all who have replied to my original post.

First let me say i am not a window cleaner and i never intend being one.

I've cleaned my own windows using the traditional method for years and having recently come across some window cleaning videos on WFP systems i thought the pole might be better certainly safer than clambering up and down a ladder.

It never entered my head that you could not use tap water so i've learned something there. But i am not giving up i'm sure i can get better results with perseverance. i will keep listening and learning that's all i can do.

i would also like to say thanks to Davy G for understanding my situation.

And lastly to Martyn from Guernsey don't come on this forum for a laugh just look in the mirror first thing in the morning.

regards

axelrod 

 

[Davy G]

Hi to all who have replied to my original post.

First let me say i am not a window cleaner and i never intend being one.

I've cleaned my own windows using the traditional method for years and having recently come across some window cleaning videos on WFP systems i thought the pole might be better certainly safer than clambering up and down a ladder.

It never entered my head that you could not use tap water so i've learned something there. But i am not giving up i'm sure i can get better results with perseverance. i will keep listening and learning that's all i can do.

i would also like to say thanks to Davy G for understanding my situation.

And lastly to Martyn from Guernsey don't come on this forum for a laugh just look in the mirror first thing in the morning.

regards

axelrod 

You're very welcome mate. I wonder if you could get good results with an extending trad pole, applicator and squeegee rubber blade? It's not a method I have any experience of but there's a lot of good folk on here with a wealth of experience between them. I'd be confident they'll be able to help with you with sound advice. It would be good to avoid ladders for sure and I wouldn't think the kit would be too expensive. There's a trad cleaning section on this forum as well but I think most of the more experienced guys on the wfp section on here are well experienced with trad as well.

Best of luck. Maybe let us know how you get it sorted? ??

 

[Martyn]

Hi to all who have replied to my original post.

First let me say i am not a window cleaner and i never intend being one.

I've cleaned my own windows using the traditional method for years and having recently come across some window cleaning videos on WFP systems i thought the pole might be better certainly safer than clambering up and down a ladder.

It never entered my head that you could not use tap water so i've learned something there. But i am not giving up i'm sure i can get better results with perseverance. i will keep listening and learning that's all i can do.

i would also like to say thanks to Davy G for understanding my situation.

And lastly to Martyn from Guernsey don't come on this forum for a laugh just look in the mirror first thing in the morning.

regards

axelrod 

axelrod I wish you well with your quest but the reality is that without some (possibly significant) investment in a method to purify your water you are flogging a dead horse.

Good luck and stay safe.

 

[harunh]

Hi to all who have replied to my original post.

First let me say i am not a window cleaner and i never intend being one.

I've cleaned my own windows using the traditional method for years and having recently come across some window cleaning videos on WFP systems i thought the pole might be better certainly safer than clambering up and down a ladder.

It never entered my head that you could not use tap water so i've learned something there. But i am not giving up i'm sure i can get better results with perseverance. i will keep listening and learning that's all i can do.

i would also like to say thanks to Davy G for understanding my situation.

And lastly to Martyn from Guernsey don't come on this forum for a laugh just look in the mirror first thing in the morning.

regards

axelrod 

I recommend u become a window cleaner and become a millionaire like most of the people on this forum ? 

Have a look into it mate... it might be the best thing u ever do ?  

 

[Danfire]

I still get customers offering me the use of their outside tap no matter how many times I've explained that you cannot use tap water. The TDS is so high round my way the glass would look like a shower door within a couple of cleans.