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I’ve always been someone who naturally looks at the price, not in the cheap way, but I’ve normally gone with the more expensive option hoping/presuming/expecting it to be superior/better.

 

But the older and slightly wiser I’m getting I’m not sure it’s true. On here several times I’ve seen people put links to £300+ gutter cams, £5000+ Van systems, etc etc. And thats fine up to them.

 

But over the last couple of years, now living on my own, paying all the bills etc I’ve had to be abit more sensible with money, So bought the cheaper options in several things where before I would of bought the more expensive option. And in most I’ve found them to be fine, reliable, decent.

 

Where I’ve bought more expensive options over the years that have been poor quality or unreliable etc.

 

Now obviously it’s subjective and a very wide subject to cover. But just got me thinking that’s all... 🤔

 

Also, it’s like the new-ish Range Rover Sport, here in Bournemouth you see one every 2 minutes now, it’s ridiculous. Yet I’ve heard several people (including a couple of customers) say how disappointed they’ve been, electrical problems, poor customer service at the dealer garage etc. And they are so expensive compared to other family cars/4x4s you can buy. 

 

 

 

 

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CHWS

I’ve always heard range rovers are the most unreliable 4x4 on the road 

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Clisty1989
4 minutes ago, CHWS said:

I’ve always heard range rovers are the most unreliable 4x4 on the road 

Yet old school defenders are indestructible

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Green Pro Clean Ltd
1 minute ago, Clisty1989 said:

Yet old school defenders are indestructible

 

Give me 20 mins..........   😁😂😁

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scottish cleaning service

An old millionaire business man told me he only buys German when it comes to engineering. I bought a VW car and had no probs with it. Sold it when it was 4yrs old and bought a VW van and now have it 9yrs and again no probs bar the alarm siren. After taking his advice, it seems to be true with engineering for me anyway. FWIW

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Clisty1989
17 minutes ago, Green Pro Clean Ltd said:

 

Give me 20 mins..........   😁😂😁

Theyre squaddie proof, in my book that's pretty much indestructible. @Dave B can back me up with that sentiment

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Green Pro Clean Ltd
5 minutes ago, Clisty1989 said:

Theyre squaddie proof, in my book that's pretty much indestructible. @Dave B can back me up with that sentiment

 

Remember that season of Top Gear they spent trying to kill a Toyota Hilux? Didn't manage it.  Only basic tool kit allowed for repairs? Would truly have been fascinating to see how a Defender would have fared to that punishment. 

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CHWS

I’ve heard the defenders are bullet proof ( the real old ones) Toyota seems to be the dogs balls in that department going by any footage I’ve seen From isis hammering them through the dessert lol

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Clisty1989
10 minutes ago, Green Pro Clean Ltd said:

 

Remember that season of Top Gear they spent trying to kill a Toyota Hilux? Didn't manage it.  Only basic tool kit allowed for repairs? Would truly have been fascinating to see how a Defender would have fared to that punishment. 

They can take a battering, the army still use them as NOTHING they trialled can compete. Yes some other vehicles are better at certain things, but they're the only thing that can do everything, and won't die. I've heard stories from Iraq where they were getting blown up, shot at, but just kept going. Top gears Hilux took some punishment, but any army landy has probably had worse.

The gearboxes are **** though, takes a week to find the right gear at first!

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Green Pro Clean Ltd

I'm not disputing the defenders are robust but they never had their own war named after them now have they?  

When it comes to bragging rights having a war named after you has to carry some weight. 

 

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_War

 

And FYI if I were going to buy either it would be a Defender. 

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steve garwood
2 hours ago, scottish cleaning service said:

An old millionaire business man told me he only buys German when it comes to engineering. I bought a VW car and had no probs with it. Sold it when it was 4yrs old and bought a VW van and now have it 9yrs and again no probs bar the alarm siren. After taking his advice, it seems to be true with engineering for me anyway. FWIW

Wish that was true of all German cars.

We bought a one year old sports pack 3 series BMW 18 months back and the bloody thing has gone back to the garage 4 times because of faults coming up on the dashboard 😡.

 

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RWCleaning

Yeh my mates Caddy was only 6 years old and well looked after but ended up being needing £2000+ worth of engine bits doing to it. And that was the cheapest machanic around, the Vw official garage would of wanted £4000 for the work

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Pjj
2 hours ago, Green Pro Clean Ltd said:

 

Remember that season of Top Gear they spent trying to kill a Toyota Hilux? Didn't manage it.  Only basic tool kit allowed for repairs? Would truly have been fascinating to see how a Defender would have fared to that punishment. 

 

 

Friends of mine in Australia say “ if you want to go to the bush get a Land Rover “ “if you want to go to the bush and home again get a Toyota “ enough said 😂😂😂😂😂 Land Rover reliability has always been atrocious the only dealership I know that when you take the vehicle in for a service ask any warranty issues sir ?? 

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scottish cleaning service

I wouldn't be surprised if Jaguar Land Rover closed over Christmas and never reopened. They are having a terrible time over diesel engines.

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Dave B

Can't beat a 110 defender dpv (desert patrol vehicle)

I've seen the state they come back in and just need a thorough clean and service

They were using them from the 80s until recently

And no squaddies aren't the gentlest of people

3 hours ago, Clisty1989 said:

Yet old school defenders are indestructible

 

2 hours ago, Clisty1989 said:

Theyre squaddie proof, in my book that's pretty much indestructible. @Dave B can back me up with that sentiment

 

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Pjj
5 minutes ago, Dave B said:

Can't beat a 110 defender dpv (desert patrol vehicle)

3.5l v8

I've seen the state they come back in and just need a thorough clean and service

They were using them from the 80s until recently

And no squaddies aren't the gentlest of people

 

 

 

 

The v8 petrol engine is probably the best engine they ever used , all the issues they have are electrical and going into limp mode I hade a rr sport sold it after 6 months biggest load of rubbish I have ever bought , air suspension failier 4 times in a month I owned it for 6 months it spent 5:5 months in the dealers and that was a brand new car , looked nice and when it did actually drive it was a nice drive but I would never have another , i now have Bmw and audi and suprise suprise the only time they go in the garage is for a service never had a problem in 180000 miles in the Bmw , audi has only done 28000 from new and again never had a problem, would t have land rover if I was paid to drive it 

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Dave B
2 hours ago, steve garwood said:

Wish that was true of all German cars.

We bought a one year old sports pack 3 series BMW 18 months back and the bloody thing has gone back to the garage 4 times because of faults coming up on the dashboard 😡.

 

It's all newer cars I reckon

I had an old m5 beast back in 2000 with paddle clutch and dogleg box and it was already old then and never had an issue with it

 

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RobDivision

Personally I've always had to check myself as I'm more likely to err on the side of 'The pricier the better' whereas, in most cases, even just the middle of the road option will do just as good a job - or close enough, with no real discernible difference - for a much lower price. The older I get the more price-savvy I get (aka obsessed), so no, definitely not alone. 

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THL4KEL

You cant beat Toyota Land Cruiser or if you can't afford that Nissan Patrol, especially in OZ because kids can drive V8's straight after passing there test. Theres always a lot of crashes there. You need a tank to be safe. My last motor before I left was a Toyota FJ Cruiser V6 4litre petrol 4x4.

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steve garwood

Just seems modern technology is too sensitive.

For example my mum has had the same washing machine since my brother Callam died 25 years ago.

So I guess that washing machines do indeed last longer with cal gone 😆

 

sorry 😔

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THL4KEL

Modern technology is designed to break. There's no money in making products that last forever. Everything is about  maximising profitability.

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Incheck

Yeah i agree it’s funny how these days everything seems to pack up just as the warranty ends. Its well worth insuring things now. Saved our bacon last month. Tv & washing machine packed up one after the other, one 5 years old the other 6. Also when my iPhone contract ran out i thought sod it why bother upgrading, 3 months later it died. Manufacturers are able to time these things to a tee i reckon


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THL4KEL

Especially with smartphones tablets laptops ect. They just slow them down through updates... They talk about saving the planet by reusing a plastic bag, they need to stop companies constantly pushing people into buying a new phone/car every year and make products in general more reliable.

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