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Here's the kicker, peoples expectations are unrealistic.
By people I mean the the windy placing the ads on social media.

There are posts on this forum where users are saying the likes of 'oh I tried a £10 paid ad and got nothing' Well give a leafleter £10 and see how far that gets you.

Another forum user said he tried £100 over a week and only got 8 new customers from it. Well if you have a minimum of £10 per clean that really is a good ROI (return on investment) as for £100 you're going to see a £960 return over course of your year.

Let's talk of FB audience numbers. It says as examples above that you will reach 13'000 in your area.

Now back in a Jurassic time called the 90s I worked in print asvertising and back then the realistic expectation was 2% response to a printed advert so if your magazine advert was infront of 13'000 people your total 'enquiries' (not sales, just enquiries) would be 260. Then you got to weed out all the wasters and see what's left. This is why the top Madmen (ad executives) are paid seven figure salaries, you want the best to make sure that your advert stands out in the crowd.

Moving on to the crowd, it's getting awful crowded, instant information in a world of social media blink and you'll miss it. There are ads on this page..... NO CHEATING...without scrolling up to it can you remember whos ad you just saw flash up? Exactly we are slowly becoming numbed to it.

In the modern world print adverts are dying as we all now turn to web based living. A good response these days in the realm of digital advertising is 1%, yep a lousy 1%!

So from an audience of 13'000 we are down to 130 enquiries (not customers).

130 enquiries..... let's do the figures...

25% from outside areas you operate in

25% time wasters that still think it's thruppence ha'pney for a window cleaner

10% that aren't for you, 'can only do on the 2nd wednesday of the new moon' etc or bad access or yards full of dog doo.

10% that will drop off within 3 months as they weren't really commited to start with.

That's 70% gone from the off!

Holly Calculator Batfans! We're left with just 39 customers from an advert that reached 13'000 people! What a waste of time.........

Really? Let's see.

39 new customers at £10 per customer minimum is £390 per month. You will have also perhaps picked up a couple of one off cleans from your ad and your observant 2 or 3 gutter cleans from your new clients.

So raw end £390 per month.....£4680 per year. All for an ad that cost you £200 to run. That's a 23 X ROI. Or 2300% depending on how you look at it.

Yes there are other variables that will effect overall numbers such as geograhic location, is your advert any good to start with etc etc but the above is a good rough start guide for you to begin with.

2016 Advertising budgets:

Ford: $4.3 billion

Coca cola: $4 billion

Pampers: $8.3 billion

Apple a lousy $1.3 billion even though it's brand value is considered more than 2x of any other company.

This shows that it also needs to be done right not just done.

Green Pro Clean 2016 £3'000 (still worth a smidge less than Apple /emoticons/smile.png) )

2017 budget £4.5k

Having said all that and proving that you need to speculate to accumulate well... knocking the doors is still the biggest ROI yo will see in this business.

Hope this sheds a little light. :thumbsup:
I've seen your ad on here the last few days!

 
@Clisty1989 thing is that ad will also be helping greens website ranking..an intertwined world of advertising we live in now...

I put up my fb paid post Jay and didn't pay what you quote but as we know that's due to different town populations and varied demographics. Lots of variables on these things it seems Inc villages with much older average age populations may not have such a reach on FB.

I'll repost back detailed findings from this first mini fb campaign on my blog or some thing when it ends,and what I'd have done different in this case.

I personally like these new found ways that we are being more specific in our targeting, than say a mass leaflet drop. But a mass drop offers a good long term outlook,when the calls maybe come in here and there over time.

Only wish there was a way to source newly opened commercial unit lists and such like. I've looked at a few ways to check this out for targeted letters etc but have nothing that seems like a plan yet.

 
@Solarpanelcleanington what's the latest on this?

I admire your faith in this btw! And glad it seems to have worked from the work you mentioned before

 
@Clisty1989 thing is that ad will also be helping greens website ranking..an intertwined world of advertising we live in now...
I put up my fb paid post Jay and didn't pay what you quote but as we know that's due to different town populations and varied demographics. Lots of variables on these things it seems Inc villages with much older average age populations may not have such a reach on FB.

I'll repost back detailed findings from this first mini fb campaign on my blog or some thing when it ends,and what I'd have done different in this case.

I personally like these new found ways that we are being more specific in our targeting, than say a mass leaflet drop. But a mass drop offers a good long term outlook,when the calls maybe come in here and there over time.

Only wish there was a way to source newly opened commercial unit lists and such like. I've looked at a few ways to check this out for targeted letters etc but have nothing that seems like a plan yet.
just done a £1 a day one last night and all ready got 3 customers to book in when go back..

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Back to the topic of leaflets. Leaflet companies here charge £65 per 1000.

That's 10 streets of 100 houses per street.

You would be hard pushed to get some kid off FB to do a full 10 streets.

Most quit by 10am /emoticons/smile.png)

Will be doing a drop every 3 months in 2017 as targeting 2 particular villages and want to saturate them. Will run the campaign alongside a FB campaign at the same time. Subliminal program the buggers.

 
Well it paid for itself a while ago. Lots of one offs that we price nicely and lots of repeat work.

I think the calls will keep trickling in for the next few months.

Got plans for the solar side of things this year.

 
I spent about 3 grand last year on canvassing and I recon I will spend double that this year. The good thing is the more money you make the more you can spend on marketting. If you keep investing back in then eventually you get to the point where the money starts to work for you instead of you having to do all the marketting as well as the graft.

 
@Clisty1989 thing is that ad will also be helping greens website ranking..an intertwined world of advertising we live in now...
I put up my fb paid post Jay and didn't pay what you quote but as we know that's due to different town populations and varied demographics. Lots of variables on these things it seems Inc villages with much older average age populations may not have such a reach on FB.

I'll repost back detailed findings from this first mini fb campaign on my blog or some thing when it ends,and what I'd have done different in this case.

I personally like these new found ways that we are being more specific in our targeting, than say a mass leaflet drop. But a mass drop offers a good long term outlook,when the calls maybe come in here and there over time.

Only wish there was a way to source newly opened commercial unit lists and such like. I've looked at a few ways to check this out for targeted letters etc but have nothing that seems like a plan yet.
@Chris33 have you looked at telesales companys to get you commercial leads ?

That's what I will try when I get to that point

 
No @adamangler how effective are they do you know? I'm banking on this website ranking doing it for me after exhausting all care homes and hotels around here..I have one lead! Awaiting head office saying if the price is OK on a care home.

Btw that new 4 quid daily camping of my page got ma a house in my town today/and a conny roof clean,and a roof job on same house...which will be done when I'm ready (they in no hurry)...still five days 2 go on campaign.

 
I spent about 3 grand last year on canvassing and I recon I will spend double that this year. The good thing is the more money you make the more you can spend on marketting. If you keep investing back in then eventually you get to the point where the money starts to work for you instead of you having to do all the marketting as well as the graft.
thay sounds excessive to me...but if it works for you, fair play.

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Job came in from a flyer today, £590 first clean then £295 six monthly.

They keep trickling in.

 
Yes it's a big glazed village hall type thing. Filthy. The leaflets went out to about half of the county, very rural.

 
I spent about 3 grand last year on canvassing and I recon I will spend double that this year. The good thing is the more money you make the more you can spend on marketting. If you keep investing back in then eventually you get to the point where the money starts to work for you instead of you having to do all the marketting as well as the graft.
YES!!!! Top approach... I make that theory right and have re-invested everything since I started... it will work!! See you at the top [emoji6]

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I honestly don't know! Enough to start planning the next batch.

Picked up two more today from the flyers.

 
It's a funny game. I got a call today. Had dropped leaflets 6 months ago and the old dear held onto mine.

Her husband was doing the windows but getting near puffed out by it. So she said enough was enough and hired me after presumably persusing him to pack it in.

6 months! Wow....

 

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