crystalview
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Someone else might Smurf but I'll leave it where it is, I think it's more of a chat topic.Topic has already been posted about head gear https://www.windowcleaningforums.co.uk/topic/5171-would-you-wear-this-a-could-save-your-life/
Admin best move this post to H&S, Ta
But thats just the point, it is precisely why I don't use ladders. These accidents have been happening for years but have not been reported nationally because there were not any forums like this to spread the information wider that the local papers.Very sad.
It can happen so quickly.
Both guys died, it seems from the head injuries sustained. Is there a case maybe, for some sort of safety helmet for working on ladders??
I don't know of any particular solution, but this is a window cleaning forum. Designed to discuss serious and important issues related to our working environment. It's not just a case of bringing home the money, but also just about getting home safe and in one piece.
Can we, please, not have any condescending remarks like "that's why I don't use ladders" etc.
Everybody who works with ladders has had a pants filler at some time. I have had several and thats enough for me.Think most have experienced a near miss, actually fallen from a ladder or know ppl that have. I still do ladder work and as long as ppl follow simple rules on ladder safety, use best practice and fit safety devices to help stabilise the ladder then the risk is minimised.
And yes wearing head proctection I think is a good idea
Ladders do not kill but complacency can.
But a helmet is not going to save you in the vast majority of falls. What it might do is give you a false sense of confidence. One of the big killers from what I can gather is working on your own. You have a fall and there is nobody there to give you assistance in those vital first few minutes. I'm not entirely sure, perhaps somebody who is more clued up on HSE regulations can say, but I have heard it said that its not legal to work on your own at heights, which if its true would scupper a lot of window cleaners, roofers, aerial fixers etcI presonally think when using ladders wearing a suitable helmet should become a standard part of ppe myself.
I'm a lot less tired climbing my ladder then holding my pole all day. My arms ache after 15 mins. Can run up & down a ladder all day & to be honest would not say its always quicker. Most times but not all the time. I think it's cost a lot of the time. I still think if your sensible & take your time & use the saftey gadgets you can buy you should be ok but nothing is 100% safe unfortunately. Helmets are a good idea & will be getting one. Don't give a toss what I look like.When the ladders debate started a few years ago it caused furious arguments on CIU (which was the forum I was on then) and I never could see why. If it really was simply a matter of the cost to go to wfp then maybe. But wfp is actually quicker and less tiring so you earn money quicker. Plus many houses can't be done trad.
Helmets are not going to save you in all falls, maybe not even many falls, and there are worse things than getting killed believe me.