Advice needed

[Andrew Ellis]

A bought second hand genie in a box a few weeks ago and it seemed there wasn't a lot of pressure there to start with even on 99 but worked it's got so it won't pump it though on a decent rate to clean windows so I've had to go back to useing trolley system do you think pump has had it ? that will teach me to second hand

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[spruce]

TBH it looks pretty good inside.

The label says its an Aquatec pump. Gardiners have sold them for years and they have a pretty good name.

Window Cleaning Warehouse sell that exact model rebranded as a Facelift pump.

So first thing would be to check the filter and ensure its clean. The second thing would be to check the battery. I see it has a magic eye. What colour is the magic eye. I don't see a green of white dot inside. It looks black to me. Black means that the battery needs attention.

It could need charging so that's the second thing I would do. One of the things we need is a multimeter to see what the starting voltage is across the terminals. A fully charged battery will read 12.7/12.8v after its been at rest (no charging or draining) for around 4 hours. Put it on a good battery charger. A flat battery will read 12.0/12.1 volts.

A multimeter will also tell you what the battery is doing under load. Its usual for a battery to drop a few voltage points when under load, but if it drops to the upper 10v then the battery is flat. The controller will cut power to the pump if the voltage drops to 10.3v on a Spring controller (there is the possibility of 'removing' that stop altogether, but that will damage a battery if its done too often.)

Most motor factors keep a battery tester under their front counter. You could charge the battery overnight and take it to them and they will see how it reacts when a load is put on it. They will tell you if the battery is faulty or not.

I dislike those battery clamps. I could never get them to give a consistently good connection.

 

[WfpTen]

As it sounds similar to what has happened to me, I would suggest checking the pre-pump filter. If that is full of gunge (as mine was) that will cause the low pressure.

 

[Iron Giant]

Also make sure all your connections are nice and tight, jubilee clips on the hose on inlet and outlet on the pump as air can get in a cause a drop in pressure at the brush head.

If the battery is knackered a 70ah leisure battery from Halfords should fit inside just check battery dimensions.

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[Andrew Ellis]

TBH it looks pretty good inside.
 
The label says its an Aquatec pump. Gardiners have sold them for years and they have a pretty good name.
Window Cleaning Warehouse sell that exact model rebranded as a Facelift pump.
 
So first thing would be to check the filter and ensure its clean. The second thing would be to check the battery. I see it has a magic eye. What colour is the magic eye. I don't see a green of white dot inside. It looks black to me. Black means that the battery needs attention.
 
It could need charging so that's the second thing I would do. One of the things we need is a multimeter to see what the starting voltage is across the terminals. A fully charged battery will read 12.7/12.8v after its been at rest (no charging or draining) for around 4 hours. Put it on a good battery charger. A flat battery will read 12.0/12.1 volts.
 
A multimeter will also tell you what the battery is doing under load. Its usual for a battery to drop a few voltage points when under load, but if it drops to the upper 10v then the battery is flat. The controller will cut power to the pump if the voltage drops to 10.3v on a Spring controller (there is the possibility of 'removing' that stop altogether, but that will damage a battery if its done too often.)
 
Most motor factors keep a battery tester under their front counter. You could charge the battery overnight and take it to them and they will see how it reacts when a load is put on it. They will tell you if the battery is faulty or not.
 
I dislike those battery clamps. I could never get them to give a consistently good connection.

I'll check everything in morning thanks

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As it sounds similar to what has happened to me, I would suggest checking the pre-pump filter. If that is full of gunge (as mine was) that will cause the low pressure.

Cheers pal I'll have a look in morning

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Also make sure all your connections are nice and tight, jubilee clips on the hose on inlet and outlet on the pump as air can get in a cause a drop in pressure at the brush head.

If the battery is knackered a 70ah leisure battery from Halfords should fit inside just check battery dimensions.

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Cheers pal I'll have a look and check everything in morning

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[spruce]

If you have a set of jumper cables @Andrew Ellis then you could connect the pump box battery up to your vehicle battery. If you run the pump and it works fine then your leisure battery in the box is suspect, either flat and needs charging or shot and needs replacing. If you run the engine the voltage across the terminals should be anywhere between 13.8 and 14.5 volts, provided you aren't using a vehicle with regenerative braking.

As another poster has mentioned, check for any faulty cable joins. That's a good suggestion.