Employing someone

[Richyconnett]

Do it mate. If you have an accountant you’ll need to pay for payroll and provide a pension. The wages will obviously come off your profits. I believe the tax vat threshold has now gone to £90,000 so if you think you can stay under that then perfect. Employers liability is nowhere near the £100 a month someone has said. I have employers and public for £34
Biggest hurdle will be finding someone you trust to do the job.

 

[P4dstar]

As far as I am aware it's only logo'd work wear and proper PPE that are allowable as business expense. PPE is personal Protective Equipment - safety shoes, goggles, gloves etc not just normal items of clothing that anyone else might buy to wear casually.
'Putting stuff through' as a certain category doesn't make it correct. In the unlikely event you are audited then you might find a fair bit of stuff you put through might not be allowable. Then again I believe the penalty is just the tax not aid and a small fine unless they prove systematic avoidance.
That said I bet there are lots of allowable expenses you could put through that you don't, like use of a space in your home for admin etc.
I don't think protection from the rain counts as PPE

When people say "by the book" they have to remember the book has been added to so much it's barely worth the paper it's printed on. What's to say Dazmond didn't get those Gortex jackets embroidered... If the shoes are safety shoes and he has a risk assessment requiring them all of a sudden they became a permissible expense. So many caveats it's barely worth thinking about. So many points and arguments and loopholes it all comes down to how switched on people are.

 

[dazmond]

As far as I am aware it's only logo'd work wear and proper PPE that are allowable as business expense. PPE is personal Protective Equipment - safety shoes, goggles, gloves etc not just normal items of clothing that anyone else might buy to wear casually.
'Putting stuff through' as a certain category doesn't make it correct. In the unlikely event you are audited then you might find a fair bit of stuff you put through might not be allowable. Then again I believe the penalty is just the tax not aid and a small fine unless they prove systematic avoidance.
That said I bet there are lots of allowable expenses you could put through that you don't, like use of a space in your home for admin etc.
I don't think protection from the rain counts as PPE

Your wrong.....waterproofs are PPE if you regularly work outside in wet weather all year round(look it up). You obviously don't live in the North west!

Nitrile gloves are also PPE (protecting hands from carbon dust)

 

[dazmond]

I've just bought 2 x bergaus goretex jackets at £165 each and put them both through as PPE as they just get used for work. It's perfectly legal and above board. Same with my goretex boots and waterproof trousers. You can get hypothermia if your soaking wet in cold weather.

 

[ched999uk]

Your wrong.....waterproofs are PPE if you regularly work outside in wet weather all year round(look it up). You obviously don't live in the North west!

Nitrile gloves are also PPE (protecting hands from carbon dust)

Fair enough, lots of rules and interpretation. Still can't actually find HMRC definition of PPE - there must be one somewhere - lots about uniform and clothing without logos but as you say PPE probably comes under different category.

As for me not living in the north west - I am further north and west of you - very close to Blackpool!

 

[Cghwindowcleaning]

If you need it for work it’s a work expense then put it through simple.
You need a waterproof jacket and boots if you work out doors in the winter just like you need sunglasses and sunscreen for work in the summer.

If a multi millionaire mp can claim for a second London home and all it’s expenses and running cost even down to the window cleaning bill although they live 30 minutes outside London then I’m sure Daz will be fine running a few gore tex jackets through the books.

Always get advice from a good accountant but remember his job is to help you pay the least amount of tax possible legally.Working best for your interests not HMRC’s

 

[DeLaCruz]

thanks for all the discussion on this one - agree i did previously post the question a few year ago apologies for the duplicate - i do think it is a grey area bc obviously if you employ someone and your doing north of 60K a year already it puts you into VAT threshold. Seems so many established builders and also exterior guys i know are doing the subbie thing. tricky one ty again everyone for their thoughts

 

[Chris34]

Your wrong.....waterproofs are PPE if you regularly work outside in wet weather all year round(look it up). You obviously don't live in the North west!

Nitrile gloves are also PPE (protecting hands from carbon dust)

Agree, I put sunglasses as costs as it's UV protection for my eyes (not a big cost, last pair of dewalt was £10 and I've had them over 2 years ) . Also put sun cream on, I use it all year round and go through a bottle every month to six weeks on average. Basically anything that I use for window cleaning that I wouldn't ordinarily use when I'm not gets put on the costings.

 

[dazmond]

Agree, I put sunglasses as costs as it's UV protection for my eyes (not a big cost, last pair of dewalt was £10 and I've had them over 2 years ) . Also put sun cream on, I use it all year round and go through a bottle every month to six weeks on average. Basically anything that I use for window cleaning that I wouldn't ordinarily use when I'm not gets put on the costings.

I put my oakley prism sunglasses through too(£260!). My last pair lasted 8 years though and just used for work...and I wear them every sunny working day (esp this time of year with low sun).

Don't forget to put £60 a year through for washing of work clothes too!

No wonder my expenses bill most years is around the 7k mark!

 

[Part Timer]

I put my oakley prism sunglasses through too(£260!). My last pair lasted 8 years though and just used for work...and I wear them every sunny working day (esp this time of year with low sun).

Don't forget to put £60 a year through for washing of work clothes too!

No wonder my expenses bill most years is around the 7k mark!

So you saved £52, 20% of £260, over 8 years equivalent to 12p a day.

 

[mattybondi]

I put my oakley prism sunglasses through too(£260!). My last pair lasted 8 years though and just used for work...and I wear them every sunny working day (esp this time of year with low sun).

Don't forget to put £60 a year through for washing of work clothes too!

No wonder my expenses bill most years is around the 7k mark!

yet again youv derailed the thread you self centred wassack. Youll never employ anyone so banging on about yer sunglasses brings it back onto you,pipe down you are a real boor

 

[dazmond]

yet again youv derailed the thread you self centred wassack. Youll never employ anyone so banging on about yer sunglasses brings it back onto you,pipe down you are a real boor

I've employed at least 60 lads years ago when on ladders but I just paid them cash in hand!....can't get away with it these days

If you don't like my posts just ignore them!

I've not heard the term 'wassack' for years! Your showing your age fella!

Ive autocorrected you It's wazzock by the way!