Something useful if you use hoseless

[JEM]

I've been running the hoseless system made up of some of the parts from the kit I bought separately
I needed to remove my gardener scraper from my brush as tomorrow as I have a job that has the Juliet balcony with the bars so it wouldn't fit.

I have the standard hose stay that as anyone knows once they are on they are hard to remove and refit, I know exceed do a new hose stay but I needed something today
So chopped up a JG t piece and it works perfectly and it's free!
Here's a photo

 

[Jango]

@Skxawng made something similar a good while ago. They are very good hose stays. I have bought the new goosenecks, they are really good. You don’t need a hose stay, they remove a lot easier than the old style. I just take the gooseneck out of the pole, slip my scraper on and off really easy. Going to fit all my poles with them. Tested it now about 6 months, wouldn’t go back to the old style now.

 

[Part Timer]

We do loads of Juliets, using a 35cm brush, and manage with a scraper on.

 

[JEM]

We do loads of Juliets, using a 35cm brush, and manage with a scraper on.

When I went to quote I tried, it wouldn't go between the bars they are tightly spaced bars

 

[JEM]

@Skxawng made something similar a good while ago. They are very good hose stays. I have bought the new goosenecks, they are really good. You don’t need a hose stay, they remove a lot easier than the old style. I just take the gooseneck out of the pole, slip my scraper on and off really easy. Going to fit all my poles with them. Tested it now about 6 months, wouldn’t go back to the old style now.

I'm hoping i don't need the new goosenecks as I prefer being able to connect the hose one-handed!

 

[Part Timer]

When I went to quote I tried, it wouldn't go between the bars they are tightly spaced bars

Do you use a swivel? We also find putting the brush through at the bottom of the railings is easiest. If you get the bush through then rotate it back to parallel the scraper should go through

 

[JEM]

Do you use a swivel? We also find putting the brush through at the bottom of the railings is easiest. If you get the bush through then rotate it back to parallel the scraper should go through

Yeah i do, I wouldn't be without my swivel now. I did try maybe there is a way with some jiggery-pokery I just think will be easier without it, especially when doing the 3rd storey balcony

 

[ched999uk]

@Skxawng I have bought the new goosenecks, they are really good. You don’t need a hose stay, they remove a lot easier than the old style. I just take the gooseneck out of the pole, slip my scraper on and off really easy. Going to fit all my poles with them. Tested it now about 6 months, wouldn’t go back to the old style now.

Do you use hoseless? I am in 2 minds about the new gooseneck as on one hand they don't need any additional bits to stop hose pulling through when using a univavle but on the other they aren't great if you want hoseless, plus if you have to put a gooseneck extension on you can't just pull extra hose through the gooseneck you have to have an extra bit the correct length.

I am seriously considering going hoseless as I do spend a bit of time coiling up the pole hose, but not sure on the durability of the release sleeve being dragged round when reeling in? I am not keen on the new hoseless system as old one seemed one handed now needs 2.

 

[Mattlekim]

I too love the new gardeners gooseneck. So much easier than the last one to remove and put back in.

I also run a tubeless system that works one handed with the new gooseneck too. I finally have a setup with my pole that I'm happy with. Just need to convert the rest of my poles to the new gooseneck as I only swapped over a month ago.

 

[Mattlekim]

@JEM that's a really good idea. My exceed hosestopes broke on me twice so I swapped over to @Skxawng hosestopes where much better and durable before I went over to the new gooseneck

 

[Mx19]

Do you use hoseless? I am in 2 minds about the new gooseneck as on one hand they don't need any additional bits to stop hose pulling through when using a univavle but on the other they aren't great if you want hoseless, plus if you have to put a gooseneck extension on you can't just pull extra hose through the gooseneck you have to have an extra bit the correct length.

I am seriously considering going hoseless as I do spend a bit of time coiling up the pole hose, but not sure on the durability of the release sleeve being dragged round when reeling in? I am not keen on the new hoseless system as old one seemed one handed now needs 2.

Why do you think they aren’t great with tubeless out of interest? Gooseneck choice has nothing to do with that end of it all, at least it doesn’t with my tubeless setup, or am I missing something?

 

[ched999uk]

Why do you think they aren’t great with tubeless out of interest? Gooseneck choice has nothing to do with that end of it all, at least it doesn’t with my tubeless setup, or am I missing something?

The old Gardiner Goosenecks had a hose that passes through the gooseneck. So when you fit a hoseless system you can thread the pole hose through the gooseneck then fit a hose stop. The new goosenecks have a fixed tube at the bottom and a john guest at the top, so there is a waterway built into the gooseneck. You use a john guest on your pole hose to connect to the gooseneck then a separate piece of hose from the gooseneck's built in john guest to your brush tee.
The problem that it presents for hoseless is you need to somehow stretch the pole hose to connect to the gooseneck, which is difficult as the bottom end is fixed in the bung!
The problem is only with the new gardener gooseneck - well unless you have an easy way to do it?

 

[Mattlekim]

The old Gardiner Goosenecks had a hose that passes through the gooseneck. So when you fit a hoseless system you can thread the pole hose through the gooseneck then fit a hose stop. The new goosenecks have a fixed tube at the bottom and a john guest at the top, so there is a waterway built into the gooseneck. You use a john guest on your pole hose to connect to the gooseneck then a separate piece of hose from the gooseneck's built in john guest to your brush tee.
The problem that it presents for hoseless is you need to somehow stretch the pole hose to connect to the gooseneck, which is difficult as the bottom end is fixed in the bung!
The problem is only with the new gardener gooseneck - well unless you have an easy way to do it?

Have you seen @Skxawng new tubless kit for the new gardeners gooseneck?

Iv been using it for about a month. It's awesome. It has worked flawlessly, and is fully contained withing the pole meaning it's just like the old tubless kit and one handed to connect and disconnect. As another advantage no need for a spacer so my pole is shorter which I love.

 

[Pjj]

The old Gardiner Goosenecks had a hose that passes through the gooseneck. So when you fit a hoseless system you can thread the pole hose through the gooseneck then fit a hose stop. The new goosenecks have a fixed tube at the bottom and a john guest at the top, so there is a waterway built into the gooseneck. You use a john guest on your pole hose to connect to the gooseneck then a separate piece of hose from the gooseneck's built in john guest to your brush tee.
The problem that it presents for hoseless is you need to somehow stretch the pole hose to connect to the gooseneck, which is difficult as the bottom end is fixed in the bung!
The problem is only with the new gardener gooseneck - well unless you have an easy way to do it?

We buy the old parts and still have the hose going through the gooseneck

 

[ched999uk]

Have you seen @Skxawng new tubless kit for the new gardeners gooseneck?

Iv been using it for about a month. It's awesome. It has worked flawlessly, and is fully contained withing the pole meaning it's just like the old tubless kit and one handed to connect and disconnect. As another advantage no need for a spacer so my pole is shorter which I love.

I didn't know @Skxawng had another great product out. It looks great and perfect for the newer goosenecks. For anyone else who is looking for it here is the link: Tuff Tubeless Kit for Gardiner Poles | Rootek-Designs . Think I will be buying 1 complete kit and another 2 pole kits soon. Cheers.

 

[Mx19]

The old Gardiner Goosenecks had a hose that passes through the gooseneck. So when you fit a hoseless system you can thread the pole hose through the gooseneck then fit a hose stop. The new goosenecks have a fixed tube at the bottom and a john guest at the top, so there is a waterway built into the gooseneck. You use a john guest on your pole hose to connect to the gooseneck then a separate piece of hose from the gooseneck's built in john guest to your brush tee.
The problem that it presents for hoseless is you need to somehow stretch the pole hose to connect to the gooseneck, which is difficult as the bottom end is fixed in the bung!
The problem is only with the new gardener gooseneck - well unless you have an easy way to do it?

Ahh ok, I just used a different length of hose for mine when I switched gooseneck

 

[JEM]

Have you seen @Skxawng new tubless kit for the new gardeners gooseneck?

Do you have a link to the website? I bought the original parts only, to make up my hoseless, but couldn't see how you can use it with the new gooseneck as like Ched said you can't just pull the hose out the gooseneck anymore
It's ok Ched just posted it above

 

[Mattlekim]

Do you have a link to the website? I bought the original parts only, to make up my hoseless, but couldn't see how you can use it with the new gooseneck as like Ched said you can't just pull the hose out the gooseneck anymore
It's ok Ched just posted it above

Yep here it is Products | Rootek-Designs
It's the tuff tubless kit

 

[JEM]

Yep here it is Products | Rootek-Designs
It's the tuff tubless kit

Yep looks really good, if and when I have to change over to the new gooseneck I'll be getting this kit as prefer the older style tubeless 1 handed connection

 

[Skxawng]

Thanks, i didn't want post the link myself with the advertising rules. Although I'm waiting for Gav to get back to me about advertising this month.
The new goosenecks are brilliant in my opinion. Very cheap too.

 

[Pjj]

I didn't know @Skxawng had another great product out. It looks great and perfect for the newer goosenecks. For anyone else who is looking for it here is the link: Tuff Tubeless Kit for Gardiner Poles | Rootek-Designs . Think I will be buying 1 complete kit and another 2 pole kits soon. Cheers.

I agree all his products are very good , simple design and they work well