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Hope she's well soon Adam, I think the biggest bonus for you from this experience is it has gotten you past your worries of knocking on doors.

 

Worst case scenario? You get shot in the face.

 

And be honest that's only really gonna happen once aint it? :))

 

J/K/ Dude sounded like a dick so I think you are well shot of him.

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adamangler

youre right green, it doesnt really bother me now, i actually found it quite enjoyable!, nice stroll round and a chat with some pleasant people, you get the odd retard answering the door which knocks you a bit but then you get that lovely old couple who sign up and you can tell they are going to be good custies.

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Green Pro Clean Ltd
youre right green.

 

You sound surprised? :whistle:

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DMD

Green, Are you a limited company?

 

16k tax bill sounds ridiculous. I turnover a decent amount, well into the VAT threshold and we have a good accountant who makes sure our corporation tax bill is very little in comparison to what it would be for a sole trader.

 

A canvasser in my opinion is very hit and miss, we toyed with taking one on, but as its been shown on here - none of them do 100% what you ask them to, even if its priced £2 less than you would, you always know in your head its priced low. Then you have the ones who just take any job to bump the numbers up. its a minefield.

 

(we don't do window cleaning as a trade by the way, we are cleaning contractor subbies)

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Green Pro Clean Ltd

£16K is not my tax bill that is what the VAT bill would be ...... actually £16400 on £82k turnover.

 

Corporation taxes are whatever the accountant can get it down to but once you go over £82400 on any given 12 month period you have to pay 20% VAT.

 

Now in your case you probably cahrge VAT on top of the bill so you dont notice it but for those with large residential rounds trying to add 20% on each customer is a real crap shoot. You only have two options add it on to the customers charges or swallow the bill yourself. Not an easy choice.

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DMD

ah, VAT bill, not tax bill. got you now.

 

yes we are always business2business and hence the irrelevance of VAT. In fact, in most cases - because we are doing new build, it attracts zero vat which is even better.

 

On a residential round you are correct, VAT is a killer, and with window cleaning there isnt a lot of outlay to counter the bill either

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Green Pro Clean Ltd

VAT is VAT no ammount of outlay counters it. It is based solely on turnover regardless of expenditure.

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peter rogers

whatever u buy there is vat on it wether it be a pair trousers or petrol for the pressure washer or equipment

 

as of canvassers i have 2 and yes sometimes they price a job 1 or 2 pound under but like :P still making good money

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Woody

From reading on the forum there seems to be a delicate balance between the canvassing and cleaning windows. I'm new to window cleaning but have lots of years canvassing experience.

 

Most of you are looking for canvassers, but I'm wondering if it would be more beneficial for me personally to go out canvassing and get window cleaners in to do the cleaning.

 

Turning the tables, so to speak.

 

Any thoughts?

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adamangler

I think if you could canvass full time and keep employing people you could build a massive business. After all its getting the customers that's the hard bit the rest us pretty easy.

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peter rogers

Gettin the right staff is key

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GleamCleanUK

I feel your pain.

I got 2 guys on now canvassing. They get 100% first clean commission. I don't charge 1st clean rates but have a 3 clean contract for every new client. If they get 10 + custys they get a bonus. The trick I find is in the training. 2 weeks I spend shadowing them while working. So I can be working in the same area all day as they are in. Any hard quotes for really bogging jobs. I can get a call to do a quote and they watch me quote and gradually learn the ropes. Both guys get an average of 15 each a day. Sometimes work 6/7 days a week between 12/7:30pm. Some days they get crap work and I just have to tell them if you get rubbish they won't be staying. You lay down the law from the start and look after them the best you can, then sack em if they are crap. Had a lad on 2 years ago who took the mick big time. Got so much bad quality work. It's a tough one but finding a quality window cleaner is going to be more difficult than finding a good canvasser. Hope you find another decent one soon. Good luck mate

 

 

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Leeds
I think if you could canvass full time and keep employing people you could build a massive business. After all its getting the customers that's the hard bit the rest us pretty easy.

 

And you'd get really good at canvassing too!! Rich get richer!

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adamangler
And you'd get really good at canvassing too!! Rich get richer!

 

I agree, not for me though unfortunatley. Rather do the cleaning and someone else canvass

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Dave B

If i had guys to do the work i would rather canvass 3 days a week and do some softwash the other 2 days

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