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Bart90
6 hours ago, matty86 said:

Are you supposed to put clips in for every rubber make? Or just certain ones 

You don't need to for rubber that fits tightly as it doesn't move. I don't bother with Ettore. Razr red & Moerman definitely need clips.  Like Mike I followed Trad-man's advice and use the unger green clips.

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Eric Gilliand

I live in the Edinburgh of the South (DUNEDIN NZ) so being traditionally ‘tight fisted’ I actually slice the clips in half lengthwise 🤪

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Bart90
3 hours ago, Eric Gilliand said:

I live in the Edinburgh of the South (DUNEDIN NZ) so being traditionally ‘tight fisted’ I actually slice the clips in half lengthwise 🤪

Ingenious! 

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matty86

Thanks lads. Been using Unger soft don't have any Unger clips so will used some  it up paper clips. Feels like the blade is less dragy when fanning so hopefully that helps too. 

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matty86

Thanks will have a look at that video. 

 

 

Getting lines gain today with the liquidator 😑

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matty86

The lads using the green Unger clips do you not find it causes the rubber to not contact the glass properly? Using moerman rubber at the minute. 

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Eric Gilliand
7 hours ago, matty86 said:

The lads using the green Unger clips do you not find it causes the rubber to not contact the glass properly? Using moerman rubber at the minute. 

 

What channel end clips are you using? The very latest clips hold most rubbers very tightly. A good indication is that if it’s very difficult to get the Unger clip in then you’ve got the latest ones. The problem then is that the green clip may distort the rubber. I use them in the original clips and the earlier V2 clips but on the latest ones if the rubber is difficult to slide in and set? I don’t bother

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Dave B
On 26/02/2019 at 19:31, matty86 said:

I have been having issues with the liquidator leaving loads of weird lines. What I've done is overlapped the rubber by about 1mil each side and that stopped about 99% of the issues. Does anyone stick pins or clips on the end to hold the rubber in place? Am unsing Unger soft at moment. 

Unger rubber is too short from the back to the front edge to use effectively with the liquidator channels

Moerman/ettore/razr are all a touch longer which helps a lot

And hi @Eric Gilliand not spoken for a while

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matty86
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1 hour ago, Eric Gilliand said:
9 hours ago, matty86 said:

The lads using the green Unger clips do you not find it causes the rubber to not contact the glass properly? Using moerman rubber at the minute. 

 

What channel end clips are you using? The very latest clips hold most rubbers very tightly. A good indication is that if it’s very difficult to get the Unger clip in then you’ve got the latest ones. The problem then is that the green clip may distort the rubber. I use them in the original clips and the earlier V2 clips but on the latest ones if the rubber is difficult to slide in and set? I don’t bother

 

Thanks mate. Ah that must be the reason then. Just bought a new 12inch channel. Yeah the Unger clips so difficult to get them in this channel. Not used the Unger clips before. Got a 10 inch channel bought in late 2018 is that the latest V.2 clips too? 

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Eric Gilliand
10 hours ago, matty86 said:

 

Thanks mate. Ah that must be the reason then. Just bought a new 12inch channel. Yeah the Unger clips so difficult to get them in this channel. Not used the Unger clips before. Got a 10 inch channel bought in late 2018 is that the latest V.2 clips too? 

I would say yes if you bought it from one of the larger, busier supply outlets.

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matty86
3 hours ago, Eric Gilliand said:

I would say yes if you bought it from one of the larger, busier supply outlets.

Yeah the I bought the end of last year was from window cleaning warehouse. This one I bought last week the 12inch from cleaning spot.

14 hours ago, Dave B said:

Unger rubber is too short from the back to the front edge to use effectively with the liquidator channels

Moerman/ettore/razr are all a touch longer which helps a lot

And hi @Eric Gilliand not spoken for a while

Yeah thanks for that. I did read that somrwere that Unger rubber was too short. It's a shame I have loads of Unger soft here haha

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matty86

How do people find using the ettore rubber in there liquidator?. I find it good rubber and holds tight etc. But because it's inbetween a soft rubber and hard rubber it can easily slip over the windows with paper thin seals leaving a edge of soap down the side. Anybody else find that? Best rubber I have used still moerman atm. 

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paulben

Got fed up using clips so drilled a small hole through both blue end clips and put a small self tapping screw in make sure it don't protrude through other side . Rubber don't move at all just a few extra seconds changing rubber but better than constantly shifting rubber on job . 12" never had a problem only on 14"

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Jimbo

It's great reading through all these tips on getting the best out of the liquidator, this rubber, that rubber, different handles, end clips etc etc..... Maybe moerman could just make us all a nice finished product that doesn't need altering or messing about with 🤔

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paulben

Surely someone from Moerman reads posts like this would be good to get some input from them 

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Jimbo
13 minutes ago, paulben said:

Surely someone from Moerman reads posts like this would be good to get some input from them 

Definitely, it's such a great idea and don't get me wrong, it does actually help with the detailing but it just seems untested and unfinished 

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Staffswindows

Iv been using the liquidator for a while now and love it. I brought a fliq for it and also loved it . Brilliant and speeds my cleaning up no end. Been using 10" for ages . Just like how it handles.  Brought the 14" liquidator today . Just been trying it out . Not overly impressed . Leaving lines . Had to change my technique to stop this.  Not sure if its because the rubber is brand new . Going to keep using for a week but if still not happy might try different rubber like a few of you have suggested.  

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mupps

Try the black diamond rubber. I source mine from the cleaning warehouse.

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mike007
3 hours ago, Staffswindows said:

Iv been using the liquidator for a while now and love it. I brought a fliq for it and also loved it . Brilliant and speeds my cleaning up no end. Been using 10" for ages . Just like how it handles.  Brought the 14" liquidator today . Just been trying it out . Not overly impressed . Leaving lines . Had to change my technique to stop this.  Not sure if its because the rubber is brand new . Going to keep using for a week but if still not happy might try different rubber like a few of you have suggested.  

Always wear new rubber in before using on customers. I used razr red in my 14inch till last two times when I replaced the rubber with Unger soft, worked fine (with the green end clips). And replaced Friday with razr red again as still had some, and after wearing in worked fine.

I do advise using end clips in all moerman channels

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CHWS
1 hour ago, mike007 said:

Always wear new rubber in before using on customers. I used razr red in my 14inch till last two times when I replaced the rubber with Unger soft, worked fine (with the green end clips). And replaced Friday with razr red again as still had some, and after wearing in worked fine.

I do advise using end clips in all moerman channels

 

Have you a link for the end clips 

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Cick
6 hours ago, mike007 said:

Always wear new rubber in before using on customers. I used razr red in my 14inch till last two times when I replaced the rubber with Unger soft, worked fine (with the green end clips). And replaced Friday with razr red again as still had some, and after wearing in worked fine.

I do advise using end clips in all moerman channels

Where do you put the green clips in ? Also your rubber does it go right to the end of the blue end clips when I got mine the rubber that came in it was a couple mm short each side is that normal ? 

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Clisty1989

The other tip for liquidators i would recommend is use a LOT more soap. The more you use the less lines youll get, as long as you get the angle right in hand, its one of those tools that if you dont get the angle spot on it'll play up. I use mine almost every day, no mods and after a lot of practice it works spot on. I use moerman rubber and no issues atall now

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mike007
13 hours ago, CHWS said:

 

Have you a link for the end clips 

Got them from Window Cleaning Warehouse, they are called Unger plastic clips, and you can see them under channels and rubbers page for Traditional.

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Cick
Just now, mike007 said:

Got them from Window Cleaning Warehouse, they are called Unger plastic clips, and you can see them under channels and rubbers page for Traditional.

I got some but do you put them right at the end of the clip or just where they will fit also any ideas on if the rubber should go right to the end of the blue clips 

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mike007
9 hours ago, Cick said:

Where do you put the green clips in ? Also your rubber does it go right to the end of the blue end clips when I got mine the rubber that came in it was a couple mm short each side is that normal ? 

I cut my rubber so it overlaps blue end clips by about a mil each end ,so more or less flush, also I keep it square at ends(just personal choice) the green clips go in the ends to prevent the rubber from moving (check out Trad man videos for where to fit them) makes a BIG difference using some kind of end clip

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mike007
On 28/02/2019 at 17:58, matty86 said:

Thanks lads. Been using Unger soft don't have any Unger clips so will used some  it up paper clips. Feels like the blade is less dragy when fanning so hopefully that helps too. 

Believe PolznBladz uses paper clips too. When you use end clips you notice difference big time. 

 

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mike007
16 minutes ago, Cick said:

I got some but do you put them right at the end of the clip or just where they will fit also any ideas on if the rubber should go right to the end of the blue clips 

Mine are lik this

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Cick
4 minutes ago, mike007 said:

Mine are lik this

clips.jpg

Nice one buddy thankyou I don't see why the standard moerman rubber came slightly short 😕 I put the clips in the little gap in the blue clip a little inside where yours are I will try this out cut a new rubber in and see how it goes thanks again 

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Col

I left the rubber untrimmed the last couple of days on my Liquidator and can't say i have had any problems.

The straight edge of the rubber also stops the annoying sound of plastic on wooden frames.

I used some Black Diamond rubber i had lying in the van but tomorrow i am going to change it for Red Razr and see how that goes.

No clips needed here but i find the shorter channels work with the Moerman handles but for my 14 inch i use the cheap Ettore quick release handle suggested here a while back and it is good.

Sometimes i dig an old Ettore brass or Unger steel squeegee out the van for old time sake but they just don't compare with the Liquidator.

You just have to make it work for you.

Go back to squeegee school😁

No such thing as zero detail though as i wipe the frames and cills as part of service but i only have to wash my cloths every other week as they stay drier longer.

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