A new Gutter cleaning attachment

[WindyinNorfolk]

sorry to be ignorant - but if you can use a pole from the ground why not a vac? just not clear to me

 

[mark m]

i must admit mark, that wouldn't work for me, ok you are moving the crud from one side and the other to say in the middle, but, you still have to check the running outlet, so that's two moves of the ladder.
that would be the same as using the pro gutter tool, swapping the tool over is no big issue for me maybe take ten seconds to do on a ladder if i'm honest its a solution to a problem that really that wasn't an issue at all just a niggle
and bug bear at times.
if it was low level, or even high for that matter then, why not use the gardiners quick lock scoop and position the ladder at the running outlet to collect the crud and inspect the outlet?

i am sure it is not for everybody but having a double attachment means you can always have one hand on the ladder when dragging the crud , also sometimes it difficult to get the progutter tool off , at the end of the day it is a double ended progutter tool which we found very helpfully and if you use a progutter tool then why not use a double ender and make things easier for your self

 

[mark m]

sorry to be ignorant - but if you can use a pole from the ground why not a vac? just not clear to me

How would you clean a box gutter on a conservatory roof without going up a ladder ? how would you clean out the same on a house or a valley roof that you could not see from the ground how would you clean a internal bracket guttering there is lots of reason we have to climb a ladder so why not use the best tools for the job

 

[Cleanco]

Not the ladder police again

 

[Part Timer]

sorry to be ignorant - but if you can use a pole from the ground why not a vac? just not clear to me

Because the pole has no attachments, there are areas on these gutters where you'd need 30 metres of hose. Fairly certain the suction would be that low it wouldn't suck it out

 

[WindyinNorfolk]

@mark m I didn't say you cant use ladders ( so stop being pedantic ) ladder use is is reserved for no other option not a first choice - with reference to your examples - if you have the correct equipment you can feed a vac hose along the gutter and under internal clips - roof valleys we hire cherry picker

@Part Timer - ive had to use 40 meters of vac hose on a couple of specialist jobs - vac still suck ok

 

[Bell Pallisey]

iv only been cleaning out gutters a few yrs but i can honestly say only 2 or 3 of them[out of [im guessing again], 200? i never count ] would have been suitable for a gutter vac -before the vac brigade get arsey id just like to point out

that I am telling the gospel truth and You havent seen Any of the 200 gutters in my vicinity that iv ran into - and nor will you ever .On reflection id say iv done 2 gutters a week for 5 yrs , that equals 500

 

[mark m]

@mark m I didn't say you cant use ladders ( so stop being pedantic ) ladder use is is reserved for no other option not a first choice - with reference to your examples - if you have the correct equipment you can feed a vac hose along the gutter and under internal clips - roof valleys we hire cherry picker

@Part Timer - ive had to use 40 meters of vac hose on a couple of specialist jobs - vac still suck ok

what about round the back of a large house where you can't access the back garden with a cherry picker like loads of houses , i have been in this game for 40 years you can't always clear gutters without going up a ladder

 

[Part Timer]

@mark m I didn't say you cant use ladders ( so stop being pedantic ) ladder use is is reserved for no other option not a first choice - with reference to your examples - if you have the correct equipment you can feed a vac hose along the gutter and under internal clips - roof valleys we hire cherry picker

@Part Timer - ive had to use 40 meters of vac hose on a couple of specialist jobs - vac still suck ok

The biggest problem with this job is that invariably there will be 3 or 4 downpipes blocked, and the occasional soakaway not working so invariably we have to get the ladders out to clear them. These are cleared every November and March, this is the March clearance, November is a lot worse.
Interesting, and noted about the suction through that length of hose. We notice the difference between 5m and 10m hose and assumed 30m wouldn't work

 

[Pjj]

iv only been cleaning out gutters a few yrs but i can honestly say only 2 or 3 of them[out of [im guessing again], 200? i never count ] would have been suitable for a gutter vac -before the vac brigade get arsey id just like to point out

that I am telling the gospel truth and You havent seen Any of the 200 gutters in my vicinity that iv ran into - and nor will you ever .On reflection id say iv done 2 gutters a week for 5 yrs , that equals 500

Why couldn’t you do them with a vac what’s the problem ? We do a few hundred a year and it’s very unusual that we can’t use the vac , a few the gap between the tiles and gutter is very tight but 99% are ok , that’s part of the quoting process to put up a camera to spot the problem ones

 

[Pjj]

The biggest problem with this job is that invariably there will be 3 or 4 downpipes blocked, and the occasional soakaway not working so invariably we have to get the ladders out to clear them. These are cleared every November and March, this is the March clearance, November is a lot worse.
Interesting, and noted about the suction through that length of hose. We notice the difference between 5m and 10m hose and assumed 30m wouldn't work

I think the @thekeifel can’t remember his proper name has used long lengths of hose the longest we have used is 20 meters and there is a suction drop and the silt builds up in the hose much quicker

 

[Part Timer]

I think the @thekeifel can’t remember his proper name has used long lengths of hose the longest we have used is 20 meters and there is a suction drop and the silt builds up in the hose much quicker

@THL4KEL you mean , I have always found even 10m's with wet muddy gutters they fill, and get very heavy, quickly.

 

[Part Timer]

iv only been cleaning out gutters a few yrs but i can honestly say only 2 or 3 of them[out of [im guessing again], 200? i never count ] would have been suitable for a gutter vac -before the vac brigade get arsey id just like to point out

that I am telling the gospel truth and You havent seen Any of the 200 gutters in my vicinity that iv ran into - and nor will you ever .On reflection id say iv done 2 gutters a week for 5 yrs , that equals 500

We do around £40k a year of gutters, don't have a clue how many, and apart from this one job we only get ladders out when the downpipe is blocked
At the end of the day if the clearance is that small, that you can't get a crevice tool in, the heavy rain will run off the tiles past the gutter anyway

 

[Bell Pallisey]

Why couldn’t you do them with a vac what’s the problem ? We do a few hundred a year and it’s very unusual that we can’t use the vac , a few the gap between the tiles and gutter is very tight but 99% are ok , that’s part of the quoting process to put up a camera to spot the problem ones

well could be every area is different ,for example slate roof tiles are rare in my area but biscuit tiles are not . All i can say is round here a gutter vac wouldnt be the go to tool. I know that as 2 friends of mine own a vac and one tried to sell his to me,like new it is

 

[Bell Pallisey]

We do around £40k a year of gutters, don't have a clue how many, and apart from this one job we only get ladders out when the downpipe is blocked
At the end of the day if the clearance is that small, that you can't get a crevice tool in, the heavy rain will run off the tiles past the gutter anyway

what is this who has the biggest so i know the best?.As i say above ,in my area of around 20 mile radius id be wasting my time lugging one along .In your area it obviously works for you, thats good to know .About 1 in 2 have a blocked downpipe in my area

 

[Part Timer]

what is this who has the biggest so i know the best?.As i say above ,in my area of around 20 mile radius id be wasting my time lugging one along .In your area it obviously works for you, thats good to know .About 1 in 2 have a blocked downpipe in my area

Nothing like that, you mentioned how many you did, so I quoted numbers for a comparison. I do gutters over 300 miles away from where I live, and many other areas around the country, and have never encountered what you are saying.

I've been doing gutters, with a vac, for 10+ years so it sounds to me a technique problem. If you can get your fingers in you can get a crevice tool in

 

[Bell Pallisey]

Besides all this "i know best,,,,,,,you dont " and all that iv detected hostility to any mention of the "ladders" in general in the forum.Oh i know all the obvious reason you put forward "danger " who doesnt but id wager theres 2 other reasons you are very "anti"
one is that you are also peddling water pole gear ,its suprising how many do that as a sideline or getting a nice kickback from the maker, good for you if you are getting another income stream

2nd is that you could know from experience that a new guy or 2 setting up on ladders in Your area is a real rival to creaming off your work . Im talking from experience -yet again i only know my own area, and You knows yours....
Besides all that i once met Mark who invented this tool and found him to be a kind generous and honest person, not all inventors are -such as the laddermat inventor now he Really does have blood on his hands [mine!]

 

[Part Timer]

Besides all this "i know best,,,,,,,you dont " and all that iv detected hostility to any mention of the "ladders" in general in the forum.Oh i know all the obvious reason you put forward "danger " who doesnt but id wager theres 2 other reasons you are very "anti"
one is that you are also peddling water pole gear ,its suprising how many do that as a sideline or getting a nice kickback from the maker, good for you if you are getting another income stream

2nd is that you could know from experience that a new guy or 2 setting up on ladders in Your area is a real rival to creaming off your work . Im talking from experience -yet again i only know my own area, and You knows yours....
Besides all that i once met Mark who invented this tool and found him to be a kind generous and honest person, not all inventors are -such as the laddermat inventor now he Really does have blood on his hands [mine!]

I use ladders, and fully understand that on some jobs they're required. I'm not worried about competition as I have walked away from jobs that paid many hundreds for an easy days work.
I doubt I do £200 a year in my area as the local trad guys do them for a tenner a side.
Your statement about a gutter vac not doing the job in your area is simply down to knowledge and experience, as I said if you can get your fingers in you can get a vac in.

 

[Deleted member 12462]

Nothing like that, you mentioned how many you did, so I quoted numbers for a comparison. I do gutters over 300 miles away from where I live, and many other areas around the country, and have never encountered what you are saying.

I've been doing gutters, with a vac, for 10+ years so it sounds to me a technique problem. If you can get your fingers in you can get a crevice tool in

Are you bens gutters in disguise

 

[Pjj]

@THL4KEL you mean , I have always found even 10m's with wet muddy gutters they fill, and get very heavy, quickly.

Yes that’s him , yes I agree the speed through the hose is much slower and it builds up quickly

 

[Iron Giant]

Besides all this "i know best,,,,,,,you dont " and all that iv detected hostility to any mention of the "ladders" in general in the forum.Oh i know all the obvious reason you put forward "danger " who doesnt but id wager theres 2 other reasons you are very "anti"
one is that you are also peddling water pole gear ,its suprising how many do that as a sideline or getting a nice kickback from the maker, good for you if you are getting another income stream

2nd is that you could know from experience that a new guy or 2 setting up on ladders in Your area is a real rival to creaming off your work . Im talking from experience -yet again i only know my own area, and You knows yours....
Besides all that i once met Mark who invented this tool and found him to be a kind generous and honest person, not all inventors are -such as the laddermat inventor now he Really does have blood on his hands [mine!]

have been on the cabbage again