Canvassing an ex employers work

Discussion in 'Advertising Offline/Online & Canvassing' started by M.K Cleaners.co.uk, May 29, 2012.

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  1. M.K Cleaners.co.uk

    M.K Cleaners.co.uk Grand Master
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    Not sure if this is the right place for this...


    Heres my question....


    I started my business while working for someone else (another windwo cleaner) he was okay with thhis aslong as I didnt take his customers. Which I thought was really good of him. A few months down the line and I was picking up house every where and there was alot of talk goiing on about me starting my own business (i live in a small viliage) So I told my Ex boss, I was going to leave in 8 weeks, By that time I would be able to pay the bills and have enuff money to live off etc.

    What I didnt know was that he had already found some to replace me and gave me 3 weeks to quit....

    On top of that the guy he found to replace me knew I was getting the sack before I did.....

    My ex boss was also owe me 100 pound for some work I did, he wouldnt give that to me.. His reason was he just had a big tax bill.... A few hours after I asked for my money and refused to give it to me, his wife phones me up and say you can have your money come get it.... Me being me I was pissed off by this time and told him where he could stick it....

    So I know EVERY HOUSE/PRICE of all his work, armed with info I decided to go canvass some of his work lol, Turns out a few of his customers prefer me cleaning there windows than anyone else so they were willing to switch cleaners

    What would you have done? Do you agree or disagree with what I done. Take note I worked for him for 6 years+
     
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  2. Iain

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    Sounds like be ripped you off a little bit. In that case, everything's fair game. The rules are off! Take him to the cleaners, so to speak...
     
  3. Paul

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    A tooth for a tooth mate, if he played fair I'm guessing you would of left his custys alone, I don't blame you at all, in a way your getting the money your rightfully owed.
     
  4. M.K Cleaners.co.uk

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    I would have, Apart from what happend we got on great. I think he just got a bit jealous to be honest, He wasent gaining work, more losing it because he had a new lad working for him
     
  5. Posh

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    Great work
     
  6. Masons

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    At some point in the future you may find the the customers who weren't loyal to him will not be loyal to you.
    I can sympathise, as I was in a situation where I too felt like I was being unjustly treated.
    Felt being the operative word.
    Yet I would not steal work from my ex-employer, as some morals run higher.

    Yes he shortchanged you, and maybe treated you unfairly.
    But in his eyes, he trained you up and kept you going for 6 years off his work, probably seeing you as a long term partner, and you up and leave as soon as you can afford to and though he withheld money he did end up caving in, maybe from his conscience on the matter.

    I am guessing on a couple of those points, but from what you've said I can't say.

    Using insider info to gain work as well is not something I condone.

    Each to there own though.
     
  7. M.K Cleaners.co.uk

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    He never gave me any training, He never caved in it was his wife that did. lol. I can see where your coming from though. I didnt take the decision lightly. I thought it through before I acted as its on of friends sort of step father.
     
  8. Belfastcleaning

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    It's a hard one, hate people that won't pay what they owe! You should just have it out with him about that? Just no need for him to get on like that. But I would nt go round and try taking his work as that will cause you more bother. Just go get your £100 then tell him to go flump himself
     
  9. laddergarder

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    This is an extract from the employment contract I have all my employees sign...


    Restrictive Covenant
    Upon leaving or termination of contract with [business name], I agree not to undertake provision of the same services as supplied by the [business name] either from my own business, or the employment of a compe***or, for a period of two years within a 25 mile radius of the business address below, unless this is specifically agreed prior with the Business Proprietor. [business name] will only enforce that which is reasonable to protect its business.


    ...this is quite a common thing in most employment contract to prevent what you have described. I agree that he was unfair to you and that you were unfairly dismissed. Which you could have taken him to an employment tribruneral for this and you would have been reinbursted for your lost earning for this period, as well as the out standing £100.

    You also have technically not broken the law, if there was no contract between you, or restricted covenant. But in my personal opinion, I think this is wrong. As this guy employed you, gave your a job, trained you, trusted you with information, regarding his business & lively hood, and you have abused that.

    I think even to ask the question, you know that there is a fine line between right and wrong, and this is not really clearly on one side of the coin or the other. I think if you are going to trade in the same area, ignore what you know about his prices, dont undercut him. That way if the customers what to use you, its not because you are cheaper, it is because you are better. That would be fair IMO.
     
  10. vito61

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    Lets keep some balance here. We've only got one side of the story. You guys who employ people, what would your take on this be? If someone worked for me said "Here's 8 weeks notice. I'm starting my own business in the same area I've worked for you for 6 years". I'd be pretty upset and not a little cheesed off and concerned for my own business. It can only end in tears.
     
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