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I don't know. I really look after my work stuff. It was splits down the pole if you see what I mean, rather than snapping or anything. The brush I had on it was 170g I think. I liked that it was quite a slim pole, but not impressed obviously so wouldn't buy another. I have a smaller phantom traditional pole which is very good though. I read somewhere that oval poles are better for your grip so hopefully when you get the ova8 that will help your hands.blady hell how did you crack a phamton i cant kill my 18ft carbon its solid pole my next pole will be a evo8 himod i just have to try one my hands suffer with round poles im hoping the evo8 will be much nicer in the hand despite the extra waight !!