It's freeeezing!!!

[Markyboy 50]

+6c [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106] that's more like it!!

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But now it's gonna rain lol

 

[padman]

Gone mild and piddling down this morning - I give up /emoticons/smile.png

 

[Dave B]

Why give up

Just means the glass gets more of a rinse

 

[Clearview Lee]

Yeah, rain rain rain!!! Luckily I got up at 5 and got outside of office block done just in time. Little tea break, then finish off the insides [emoji106] gotta communal Hoover job to do afterwards, but then houses [emoji107][emoji107]

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[Alien Human]

I love working in the rain /emoticons/smile.png

I hate working in the rain /emoticons/sad.png

I love working in the rain /emoticons/smile.png

I hate working in the rain /emoticons/sad.png

..........that's the conversation going on in my head so far today.

Showers with the occasional foooookin downpour!

 

[Markyboy 50]

Na no customers really wanna see u when it's raining. And I hate getting wet. I wouldn't take my car to be cleaned when it's raining. Same applies to the windows

 

[Clearview Lee]

It's a mental thing really. I wash my new van every Sunday, rain or shine. I just want it looking clean. With windows, I know customers would prefer them cleaned when it's not raining, but I still have a living to make and bills to pay. It's not actually that often it rains, and the chances it happening to the same customer regularly is pretty much zilch. BUT...I do have custies who just no not want them done in the rain. They're the ones that hold on to the delusion that when it rains it makes the windows all dirty.

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[Alien Human]

If I stopped every time it rained I wouldn't be able to pay my bills and have enough spare to live the life I got into this business to live - simples /emoticons/smile.png

 

[Markyboy 50]

It's a mental thing really. I wash my new van every Sunday, rain or shine. I just want it looking clean. With windows, I know customers would prefer them cleaned when it's not raining, but I still have a living to make and bills to pay. It's not actually that often it rains, and the chances it happening to the same customer regularly is pretty much zilch. BUT...I do have custies who just no not want them done in the rain. They're the ones that hold on to the delusion that when it rains it makes the windows all dirty.

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As u said' it's not actually that often it rains'. In that case if it rains have a chill day. Do em tomorrow. Wash your van and save some time on Sunday /emoticons/biggrin.png

 

[Clearview Lee]

Gotta keep going. Customers need to support us year round or lump it. Part of building a decent client base. I don't think I could survive without my commercial bits thou. They get done no matter what the weather.

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[Green Pro Clean Ltd]

Gotta keep going. Customers need to support us year round or lump it.

This is a very true fact, I see a lot of advice along the line of 'Oh well the weathers a bit dodgy so sack it off today' and then in the next breath and a couple of threads further along 'Customer says don't bother today, who do they think they are? How am I supposed to make a living with customers like this?'

Well you can't have your cake and eat it, that's just the way it goes.

Back on to topic, Nottingham has fluctuated between -5 degrees and +10 degrees the past couple of weeks, I can not afford to take a single day off due to cold weather. This is not from a financial viewpoint, this is from a viewpoint of I promise my clients a regular monthly service and if I miss a day cause of the weather then that screws with my schedule for the whole month. I find that as long as I keep my schedule totally regular then the client has no easy excuse to give it 'oh skip this clean'

Anyhow, I have a 3KW Oil rad that I put in the back of the van I set to #3 --- Now do bear in mind that my system is 2 x 250L tanks that are joined to make 500L so to keep these from freezing I have two 300W aquarium heaters, one in each tank, I run all three of these from about 8pm till 7am.

Don't know what it costs to run these all night but even if it's £20 a night I aint going to worry about it as I will make that back in the first 30 mins of the day. I would rather be able to earn £20 less than 100% less for the day.

As for plugging in, I live in a terrace so just run an extension across the street, weighed down with a brick at each end. Does the job.

 

[Markyboy 50]

This is a very true fact, I see a lot of advice along the line of 'Oh well the weathers a bit dodgy so sack it off today' and then in the next breath and a couple of threads further along 'Customer says don't bother today, who do they think they are? How am I supposed to make a living with customers like this?'
Well you can't have your cake and eat it, that's just the way it goes.

Back on to topic, Nottingham has fluctuated between -5 degrees and +10 degrees the past couple of weeks, I can not afford to take a single day off due to cold weather. This is not from a financial viewpoint, this is from a viewpoint of I promise my clients a regular monthly service and if I miss a day cause of the weather then that screws with my schedule for the whole month. I find that as long as I keep my schedule totally regular then the client has no easy excuse to give it 'oh skip this clean'

Anyhow, I have a 3KW Oil rad that I put in the back of the van I set to #3 --- Now do bear in mind that my system is 2 x 250L tanks that are joined to make 500L so to keep these from freezing I have two 300W aquarium heaters, one in each tank, I run all three of these from about 8pm till 7am.

Don't know what it costs to run these all night but even if it's £20 a night I aint going to worry about it as I will make that back in the first 30 mins of the day. I would rather be able to earn £20 less than 100% less for the day.

As for plugging in, I live in a terrace so just run an extension across the street, weighed down with a brick at each end. Does the job.

Thought u would have a big ole country manor with 4 garages for all your vans with all that money you're on Green. Wouldn't have to worry about twatting about with heaters then :hehehe:

 

[steve garwood]

When I switched to w.f.p 7 years ago I told all my customers that pure water is perfectly ok to use even when raining. The comments about looking desperate when cleaning in the rain don't stack up I.m.o. I'm not desperate, I'm busy and enjoy what I do rain or shine. Besides, this is England not Bermuda

 

[Markyboy 50]

When I switched to w.f.p 7 years ago I told all my customers that pure water is perfectly ok to use even when raining. The comments about looking desperate when cleaning in the rain don't stack up I.m.o. I'm not desperate, I'm busy and enjoy what I do rain or shine. Besides, this is England not Bermuda

I don't think it's that Steve. Think it's more that it's the rain that makes them dirty regardless of method used to clean them. The customers like to see them sparkling if only for a day

 

[steve garwood]

I don't think it's that Steve. Think it's more that it's the rain that makes them dirty regardless of method used to clean them. The customers like to see them sparkling if only for a day

Winy and rain, then yes they might spot. But light rain wont effect pure water cleaning. There are now videos on youtube that demonstrate this

 

[Green Pro Clean Ltd]

Think it's more that it's the rain that makes them dirty regardless of method used to clean them

Your statement is inaccurate Markyboy, sorry. When we clean windows trad, as we squeegee the solution off the glass we leave an invisible film on the glass, this is just a scientific fact. Windows look great though.

Rain water is around 004ppm and does not cause spotting on glass, it only causes spotting when interacting with dirt or residue that is already on the surface of the glass.

When we clean with WFP the water has no chemical / soap in it we leave nothing on the glass for the rain to interact with so the rain just runs off, once again fact.

When we used to do 100% trad after a month when we would return to the window it would look spotted and in need of sprucing up, now that we all WFP when I return after a month I find myself wondering 'do they really need doing again so soon?' just cause they are still looking so clean.

 

[Markyboy 50]

Your statement is inaccurate Markyboy, sorry. When we clean windows trad, as we squeegee the solution off the glass we leave an invisible film on the glass, this is just a scientific fact. Windows look great though.
Rain water is around 004ppm and does not cause spotting on glass, it only causes spotting when interacting with dirt or residue that is already on the surface of the glass.

When we clean with WFP the water has no chemical / soap in it we leave nothing on the glass for the rain to interact with so the rain just runs off, once again fact.

When we used to do 100% trad after a month when we would return to the window it would look spotted and in need of sprucing up, now that we all WFP when I return after a month I find myself wondering 'do they really need doing again so soon?' just cause they are still looking so clean.

Ok. Looks like I've learned something today then. Make sure you don't do yourself out of some work :gush: