new van small budget

[BigFoot]

well, my people carrier that I've been using to cart my wfp trolly around has gasped the last breath.

I have a small £1500-2000 budget for a suitable van so its going to be an older one.

of the vans that you have used what are the ones i should be looking for and models to avoid.

I am a one man windy and expect to go through no more than 250ltrs in a day.

Cheers!

 

[Leeds]

Peugeot partner 2007 1.6hdi with round 70k on clock, I picked up for £1800. Solid French diesel engine. 600kg payload. Has grunt. And £20 a week on fuel /emoticons/biggrin.png Gumtree!!!

 

[Jake]

Transit connect... Bulletproof

Of course everyone will just big up there own van,

But judging by reviews and general consensus a short wheel base transit connect would be superb for a small system...

 

[peter rogers]

agree transit connect be clean tidy to

 

[Eviestevie]

There's a partner 1.6 hdi in very nice nick on eBay in blue with only 38,000 on clock full service think it's a 07 plate if was closer I'd snap it up there's a easy 500 made on that

 

[Eviestevie]

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[Eviestevie]

Go in with 1750 deal out off eBay he will no the crack no fees etc

 

[Leeds]

That's a beast of a deal. Transit connectS are the deal. But you'll struggle to get one you can keep for a while for under 2k

 

[Dave B]

Berlingos are good and if you get the right one they have a 900k payload

So any berlingo would take 250l of pure

 

[Dave B]

Loads of cheap ones in autotrader

http://vans.autotrader.co.uk/mobile/search?sort=PriceAsc&keywords=&bodytype=&make=citroen&model=berlingo&minimumprice=&maximumprice=&minimumregistrationyear=2006&maximumregistrationyear=&pageNumber=2

 

[Diwrnach]

Berlingos are good but not so great on the fuel compared to say the connect mentioned above, wouldn't mind a small van myself instead of the pick up, but from my research you either need 3 grand for a newer van to get the fuel economy or a cheaper van and have much worse fuel economy making it pointless to replace my pick up.

 

[Eviestevie]

Berlingos are good but not so great on the fuel compared to say the connect mentioned above, wouldn't mind a small van myself instead of the pick up, but from my research you either need 3 grand for a newer van to get the fuel economy or a cheaper van and have much worse fuel economy making it pointless to replace my pick up.

Berlingos specially hdi s are very fuel efficent

Transits connects unless the tdci are not actually good on fuel as most other diesel vans the transit tddi is foot to the floor tackle just to get um to shift

 

[Dave B]

It all comes off your tax anyway so fuel economy isn't too important

 

[Diwrnach]

Berlingos specially hdi s are very fuel efficentTransits connects unless the tdci are not actually good on fuel as most other diesel vans the transit tddi is foot to the floor tackle just to get um to shift

Was just going by the data sheets, connects seem to get 60-70mpg, berlingos 30-40 on the ones I have looked on.

 

[spruce]

Was just going by the data sheets, connects seem to get 60-70mpg, berlingos 30-40 on the ones I have looked on.

Once it was - believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear. The modern day update is - believe nothing of what you see and nothing of what you hear.

In the early days a Citroen Dispatch, Peugeot Expert and Fiat Scudo came off the same production line in France, used the same engine and drive train - the only thing different was the badging. Yet Fiat advertised their Scudo with the JTD engine with a much better fuel consumption that the Hdi used in the Citroen and Peugeot. (The JTD was exactly the same engine as the Hdi, with the same engine mapping etc. The only thing different was the JTD badge.)

Turns out the fuel consumption in France can only be determined on a straight road in both directions with a maximum time (I think it was 15 minutes) between each run. But in Italy fuel consumption figures could be determined on a rolling road in a small temperature controlled enclosure.

Ford needed a diesel engine about 17 years ago (around 1998/9). Citroen had the technology with the Hdi engine but didn't have the infrastructure to produce enough engines for the PSA group. So the joint engine venture (Ford and PSA) began as Ford had a whole plant at Dagenham lying idle. Although ford still stick with the 1800 which was the Tddi, the 1800 TDci is really a PSA motor with all the bolt on technology.

So I doubt that PSA are going to produce an engine with Ford that gets double the miles per gallon that the PSA equivalents.

The Transit Connect is now made in Turkey, so I'm sure that anything goes in that country.

 

[Eviestevie]

Ye berlingo and partner are the same van same engine with a slight bodywork difference

Dispatch expert scudo

Relay,boxer,Ducato

When selling vans we always tried to stay away from connects tdci and vivaro etc

Not saying there all bad but the connects did suffer clutch issues and injectors the vivaros etc clutch and injectors and gearbox and can end up massive repairs

At auctions the French vans sold well not so much the ford and vauxhall

 

[spruce]

Was just going by the data sheets, connects seem to get 60-70mpg, berlingos 30-40 on the ones I have looked on.

Interesting the way things have changed.

At one time no commercial van supplier had the balls to advertise fuel consumption figures. The only way we knew a ball park figure was to look the the equivalent people carrier.

I've just looked on Citroen's website and they advertise the Berlingo van's fuel consumption this way.

Combined consumption of up to 68.9mpg and emissions from 109g/km CO2 (BlueHDi).

I bet no one will ever get that figures of 68.9 mpg combined.

 

[Green Pro Clean Ltd]

You know all these 'stats' are for a totally empty van with probably 2 gallons of fuel in it.

Never have they been tested with almost a ton of weight we all carry.

Regardless of the van you choose the only real difference in fuel consumption will be determined by your right foot!

 

[spruce]

Ye berlingo and partner are the same van same engine with a slight bodywork differenceDispatch expert scudo

Relay,boxer,Ducato

When selling vans we always tried to stay away from connects tdci and vivaro etc

Not saying there all bad but the connects did suffer clutch issues and injectors the vivaros etc clutch and injectors and gearbox and can end up massive repairs

At auctions the French vans sold well not so much the ford and vauxhall

The Vivaro is a rebadged Renault Trafic so I would stay away from those as well. The Renault Master seems to do well - mega miles etc. Look at those in the NHS.

When the Trafic was first launched in 2002/3 the motor trade was very wary of them. The trade was suspicious that they weren't up to the job. They were put in the same 'tread very carefully' category as the M/Benz Vito, the latter because of rust issues. If we were trading in a Vito, Trafic or Vivaro then we made sure we had a signed and sealed buyer for it before the deal was done.

Relay, Boxer and Ducato are made by Fiat in Italy and aren't to the same standard as the PSA offering. Fiat don't care about quality of build, paint or design issues when you have a problem, even in the warranty period. Why PSA continued with them as a larger body builder is beyond me.

I think is says it all when VW considered buying all of Fiat (excluding Ferrari) and their share price dropped and Fiat's went up.

 

[Eviestevie]

The Vivaro is a rebadged Renault Trafic so I would stay away from those as well. The Renault Master seems to do well - mega miles etc. Look at those in the NHS.
When the Trafic was first launched in 2002/3 the motor trade was very wary of them. The trade was suspicious that they weren't up to the job. They were put in the same 'tread very carefully' category as the M/Benz Vito, the latter because of rust issues. If we were trading in a Vito, Trafic or Vivaro then we made sure we had a signed and sealed buyer for it before the deal was done.

Relay, Boxer and Ducato are made by Fiat in Italy and aren't to the same standard as the PSA offering. Fiat don't care about quality of build, paint or design issues when you have a problem, even in the warranty period. Why PSA continued with them as a larger body builder is beyond me.

I think is says it all when VW considered buying all of Fiat (excluding Ferrari) and their share price dropped and Fiat's went up.

Agree spruce yes specially on the vivaro traffic etc primastar is also the same

The boxer etc have 2.2 hdi in my opinion the French vans with the hdi engine are a while thrown together but there engine is proven bombproof

 

[Eviestevie]

Apart from the 1.6 which does seem to have a flaw with turbo starvation

The 2.0 hdi is hard to come buy now