Plank Mentality, Or Just Stubborn

[Richard]

Talking to the owner of the acs forum, a thread about brushes - he thinks 80g of extra weight a brush has over another is the only thing that makes a pole heavy and hard work to use.

According to his way of thinking – it works this way - if for example you use a 25ft then you use a 75ft pole those extra 80g the brush has are to blame for the extra difficulty the pole is to handle and the reason why it’s just so tiring to use

Maybe someone can explain the extra weight of 50 feet of pole - or even just the extra 50 feet of pole hose and water which can weigh easily over 1,000 grams above and over the already extended first 25 feet, (it’s the brushes fault, I hear him cry out)

Every couple of metres you extend a carbon fibre wfp you can easily add the equivalent weight of another brush. I’m sure most would agree extend a pole without a brush and you start to notice it gets heavier to handle the further you extend

Richard

(Just joking Nat, I think stubborn)

 

[doug atkinson]

Richard,

WHY, bring it up on this forum !!!!

You're having this debate on other forums which in the end no matter what anyone says from what I've read on the post you disagree with everything !!!

I agree with having a debate but sometime in your life you also agree with other people's views. Everyone is different so everyone is not going to agree with you.

Not trying to bring you down, just an observation.

 

[M.K Cleaners.co.uk]

Richard,

WHY, bring it up on this forum !!!!

You're having this debate on other forums which in the end no matter what anyone says from what I've read on the post you disagree with everything !!!

I agree with having a debate but sometime in your life you also agree with other people's views. Everyone is different so everyone is not going to agree with you.

Not trying to bring you down, just an observation.

He will proably get banned if he brings it up on the other forum?

 

[Richard]

Richard,

WHY, bring it up on this forum !!!!

You're having this debate on other forums which in the end no matter what anyone says from what I've read on the post you disagree with everything !!!

I agree with having a debate but sometime in your life you also agree with other people's views. Everyone is different so everyone is not going to agree with you.

Not trying to bring you down, just an observation.

Pure exasperation, I suppose; I get a lot of call from disappointed window cleaners, saying they brought a brush that was recommended on forums, usually by the same lot who keep posting about the same rubbish brush (I mean that when I say that, it is rubbish) I do make brushes and I have a pretty good idea about how they work.

I don’t disagree with everything, just some things, but especially so on this subject.

Put it this way you cant make one perfect brush for wfp, the work varies to much and you will lose a lot of time -but how many window cleaners still only use one brush or have 3 brushes with the same bristles/ monofilaments – why? – Some suppliers only sell one type of monofilament and yet have a huge range of brushes. It’s such as load of Bol***ks.

But fair comment to you, I don’t mind if Gav takes it down.

Sorry, Richard

 

[All Round Cleaning]

Obviosly the bloke is a twit !!!!

Surely he should know that the higher you extend the pole its going to get harder to control

Some people just haven't got the sense they were born with .

Maybe he doesn't realise that the higher it goes the more flexible the pole will be and more pressure is needed

Or maybe he doesn't realise the higher you go the more wind he has to fight with ???

Maybe he should come on a site where window cleaners have a bit more common sense .

 

[Richard]

I agree there are many other factors, but sometimes I can come on strong; I have to, so I remember not to get trapped into living with the results of other people's thinking.

Richard

 

[WindyCleanerMan]

some times venting with mentally stable people just helps.

 

[bluemonkey]

in theory he is right, extend any pole with out a brush and see what it is like to use, then put the brush on the end and see the difference it makes,

 

[Belfastcleaning]

My clx is lovely and light doing bottoms and 2 storey, but 3 storey or over conservatories/ extensions feels a ton weight, and you can soon feel the muscles burning in the forearms.. I don't think 80gs would make much more of a difference to a ton lol

 

[Richard]

in theory he is right, extend any pole with out a brush and see what it is like to use, then put the brush on the end and see the difference it makes,

Brush weight is important, it’s a balance; how long you will be cleaning each pane of glass, to heavy is no good and to slow or more strokes is just as bad. Cleaning a pane of glass with wfp is really easy, use the wrong brush (regardless of its weight) and it is noticeable harder work.

Richard

 

[daley]

and this tw,,,,t woshes with one pass and no rince ?????????????????// and its richard who reckons thats one pass ,and loves a brick on a stick , so y have u coom on hear two slag him off cos nats a top man who ,wich is moor than can be sade of u ,

 

[Smurf]

So just a matter of interest chaps does any of you use a tecbuk brush?

 


I don't for one simple reason as richard talks ....

 

[Martyn]

Richard has totally misrepresented the points made by Nat, you would all be very welcome to visit the ACS forum to read for yourselves what was really written, only then would you be able to get a true understanding of the debate.

 

[Richard]

Debate for you is - a few of you join together and throw in insults. That’s your only answer for a debate. I did even say don’t buy my brushes, stick with what you are using, but still you throw in insults.

Tecbuk brushes aren’t perfect, as I have said you need a few types of brushes as part of your kit. But if I say anything negative about the brush you use, you just don’t like it. The brush you use will have its good points and bad points (mostly bad) get over it.

Richard

 

[daley]

sory but im my own man i ant bandyed with any one

 

[Smurf]

I’m just wondering why I can't seem to find any positive reviews about the tecbuk brush from seasoned window cleaners on the internet unlike other popular brushes used like from Gardiner pole systems.

I find Richard tends to make bold claims that he seems cannot back up (hence the term bullshite), slags others off because he doesn't like their response. Then to top it off goes crying to other forums saying how **** other brushes are.

People can make their own mind up if they buy a tecbuk brush or not it's that simple.

 

[mr shine]

this just seems to go on and on why it was brought on here is very un professional on richards part ,i dont think we would ever see alex gardiner on here arguing with potential customers . but all is not lost richard would you be man enough to make a gesture and offer your brush to the lads on acs forum for a trial .

 

[daley]

gardener did with me onanouther forum

 

[Paul]

This discussion is getting a bit out of hand now.

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