Pricing past and present

[Part Timer]

it wont affect guys like me,i have over 300 domestic jobs in a 5 mile affluent area built up over 26 years...from my experience lots of domestic customers prefer a decent one man band window cleaner who has a good rep and is trusted around the area with full contact details and address rather than a big company...i dont even have a website,i never needed one,all new jobs come from word of mouth and recommendation and have done for years,lots of my customers pay online these days but some prefer to pay by cash/card on the day...?

As I said it won't happen overnight and certain areas and certain types of customers will be immune, initially. 

 

[Iron Giant]

The reason cash will always be king is because IT will never be 100% safe. Received a letter last year from RBS which stated that the UK lost £36 Billion from IT fraud the year before. A bank robber can only physically steal the cash that's in the bank but an IT bank robber can steal All the banks money which is usually the Thursday before Good Friday. Swedish Government sent out a letter to all citizens stating that if a war should happen then make sure you have plenty of cash at hand. Sweden is nearly a cashless society. No, its just a cycle and cash will come round again. We left the stone age but never ran out of stones. ?

Because banks online  security is outdated by years aka a pile of ?, I remember a discussion on radio 2 saying how some of the biggest banks have tech and systems from the 80's and online fraud is something they simply accept happens, this was 2 years ago and fraud is still massive 

Ime in sleepy Cornwall and just in my small town there are over 800 new houses being built at the moment , several thousand more are due to be built over the next 18 months

They will be coming ?

 

[dazmond]

there are so many windows out there we cant clean them all......i pass other window cleaners phone numbers on to walk up jobs i dont want.....in fact i dont take on any new work unless its really convenient,easy access and right next to other work.....i dont want the awkward access jobs and i dont want to work more than 30 hours a week(including admin,purifying water,chasing debts,etc)..so actually "window cleaning time" is 20-25 hrs a week and its staying that way....?

 

[Iron Giant]

there are so many windows out there we cant clean them all......i pass other window cleaners phone numbers on to walk up jobs i dont want.....in fact i dont take on any new work unless its really convenient,easy access and right next to other work.....i dont want the awkward access jobs and i dont want to work more than 30 hours a week(including admin,purifying water,chasing debts,etc)..so actually "window cleaning time" is 20-25 hrs a week and its staying that way....?

Very similar to myself although I may work a few more hours, but not many 

 

[Iron Giant]

What people are failing to see is big business has already moved into, and destroyed a lot of, the commercial jobs. With the big push into a cashless society this will allow them to move into residential cleaning as well. They can afford to throw hundreds of thousands at it and not bat an eyelid. I'm not quite predicting Armageddon like @Haz, but it is nearly as "profitable" now in my area to compete with the £8 a house boys as competing against the big commercial boys

This pic is one the reasons they will see some failure it had being done by one national and is now done by another, this pic is of a window at the back of a building were no staff go I presume, the front windows are almost spotless but still shoddy 

 

[Davy G]

The trouble is, every day folk are willingly walking themselves into a cashless, automated, monitored, controlled society... thinking they are being clever. People think that automated payments, automated tills, Alexas and the like are great but long term they will reduce our freedom to control our own lives. Jobs are irreversibly being done away with. More people will need benefits. There will be less folk working and paying into the system that we will all need at some time. Very few can see it and even fewer are willing to resist it.

Long live individuality, but it is getting harder.

 

[Iron Giant]

The trouble is, every day folk are willingly walking themselves into a cashless, automated, monitored, controlled society... thinking they are being clever. People think that automated payments, automated tills, Alexas and the like are great but long term they will reduce our freedom to control our own lives. Jobs are irreversibly being done away with. More people will need benefits. There will be less folk working and paying into the system that we will all need at some time. Very few can see it and even fewer are willing to resist it.

Long live individuality, but it is getting harder.

I agree with you to a point, also there is already far too many taking without ever giving, we are an over populated world, were people are living longer than they naturally would have decades ago, thanks to some peoples obsessions with finding cures and and keeping people going with meds and machines,  I live in hope that I am able to opt for a lethal injection when the time comes rather than been forced to live a life of no real quality or awareness of who or were I am. 

 

[THL4KEL]

This is all happening in the name of increasing profits for the super rich. I.e automated tills, don't need sick pay, don't need a holiday, can work 24hrs a day, can't have an accident in the workplace and make a claim against the company, do not need a pension, do not need a trade union. When you think about it, for each automated till how many staff members do they actually lose, it's  a lot more than 3 cashier's per day.

Wouldn't you have thought our government leaders would be assessing/mitigating the long term impact of creating mass unemployment for future generations caused by automation? Yet here we are getting taxed for plastic carrier bags because that will save the planet...

 

[Part Timer]

This pic is one the reasons they will see some failure it had being done by one national and is now done by another, this pic is of a window at the back of a building were no staff go I presume, the front windows are almost spotless but still shoddy 

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But the number crunchers, who award the contracts, aren't bothered. We all know they don't work to anywhere near the standard we do but on the big commercial deals it's only the bottom line that counts.

 

[dazmond]

whos raising their prices next year?i think it will be a good time to put them up in april.....2020 has a nice "futuristic" ring to it.....ive never failed to earn more money every year for the last 10 consecutive years,although its slowed dramatically over the last couple of years,a slight bump up of my prices should see me turnover an extra £2k-£3k a year.....ive not raised any for 3 years by the time next april rolls around.....

 

[Davy G]

This is all happening in the name of increasing profits for the super rich. I.e automated tills, don't need sick pay, don't need a holiday, can work 24hrs a day, can't have an accident in the workplace and make a claim against the company, do not need a pension, do not need a trade union. When you think about it, for each automated till how many staff members do they actually lose, it's  a lot more than 3 cashier's per day.

Wouldn't you have thought our government leaders would be assessing/mitigating the long term impact of creating mass unemployment for future generations caused by automation? Yet here we are getting taxed for plastic carrier bags because that will save the planet...

This is why I have only used an automated till once, because on that occasion I had no sensible alternative. I had done my shopping and there was no staffed till open. Only automated ones and a lone member of staff to oversee the likes of me who didn't know, or in my case didn't want to know how to use them.

The politicians don't have the integrity or interest to run the country properly, sadly.

 

[Potta81]

whos raising their prices next year?i think it will be a good time to put them up in april.....2020 has a nice "futuristic" ring to it.....ive never failed to earn more money every year for the last 10 consecutive years,although its slowed dramatically over the last couple of years,a slight bump up of my prices should see me turnover an extra £2k-£3k a year.....ive not raised any for 3 years by the time next april rolls around.....

Im banging most of mine up in March for April. I always do it at the start of the tax year when I do put them up. I don’t get as many people asking me anymore either & when I do they’re always awkward. Some other jammy git must be doing the easy ones lol

 

[Davy G]

whos raising their prices next year?i think it will be a good time to put them up in april.....2020 has a nice "futuristic" ring to it.....ive never failed to earn more money every year for the last 10 consecutive years,although its slowed dramatically over the last couple of years,a slight bump up of my prices should see me turnover an extra £2k-£3k a year.....ive not raised any for 3 years by the time next april rolls around.....

I will be putting slight price increases on some jobs that I feel are due an increase. Not all, as I increased some earlier this year.

 

[Iron Giant]

But the number crunchers, who award the contracts, aren't bothered. We all know they don't work to anywhere near the standard we do but on the big commercial deals it's only the bottom line that counts.

Yes I know good sir, which is why I don't think people paying £150k and beyond for a house which most will take good care off will be happy with a shoddy job also potentially having different faces turning up at their house or a random stranger appearing in their garden when their kids are out playing.

 

 Also @Davy G I feel I should say sorry to you as when I previously quoted you and typing a way I totally forgot about your current health and if I came across insensitive or in any way offended you, I am genuinely sorry 

 

[steve garwood]

whos raising their prices next year?i think it will be a good time to put them up in april.....2020 has a nice "futuristic" ring to it.....ive never failed to earn more money every year for the last 10 consecutive years,although its slowed dramatically over the last couple of years,a slight bump up of my prices should see me turnover an extra £2k-£3k a year.....ive not raised any for 3 years by the time next april rolls around.....

I raise my price’s every January. If you tell your customers from the very beginning, shouldn’t have problems.

Pub time. Have a great weekend fellow windies ?‍???

 

[Davy G]

I raise my price’s every January. If you tell your customers from the very beginning, shouldn’t have problems.

Pub time. Have a great weekend fellow windies ?‍???

Thanks Steve. You too. ??

 

[Davy G]

Yes I know good sir, which is why I don't think people paying £150k and beyond for a house which most will take good care off will be happy with a shoddy job also potentially having different faces turning up at their house or a random stranger appearing in their garden when their kids are out playing.

 

 Also @Davy G I feel I should say sorry to you as when I previously quoted you and typing a way I totally forgot about your current health and if I came across insensitive or in any way offended you, I am genuinely sorry 

Haha! No offence was intended by you and none taken. ??

 

[Part Timer]

I raise my price’s every January. If you tell your customers from the very beginning, shouldn’t have problems.

Pub time. Have a great weekend fellow windies ?‍???

Not at the match? Haven't become a tv van by any chance ? 

 

[Iron Giant]

I raised quite a few of my prices last year but some haven't being raised for 2 years as off next year, but I have decided to whack the lot up which will be increases from £0.50 to £2.00, I will most likely increase them again next year and then maybe hold off for a year or two as for my area my pricing is at the top and I have a lot of compact work. 

 

[Iron Giant]

Wouldn't you have thought our government leaders would be assessing/mitigating the long term impact of creating mass unemployment for future generations caused by automation? Yet here we are getting taxed for plastic carrier bags because that will save the planet...

Yes they should, we only need to look around were we live the amount of young un's on the streets who would have had jobs to go to 15 years ago 2 miles away we had 3 massive factories, which are now long gone, when work did drop off in one and my wife got laid off she had a job in one of the others in days without ever really losing money. for years there has been mass uncertainty across the UK yet no signs of any improvement 

They should charge a minimum of £2 for a throwaway carrier bag at the till and start banning them completely, we would see far more people walking out the shops with just a few items under their arms, rather than asking for a carrier bag when they have bought a jar of coffee and some banana's, which is something I saw yesterday.  

On the whole we are at a crisis point across the board for people and our planet, plenty of noise and words yet I see no real action, those in power will do what they have always done, listen to all the facts laid before them and then start doing something decades later, because it was deemed to expensive then, but ends up costing and affecting everyone years down the line. 

 

[steve garwood]

Not at the match? Haven't become a tv van by any chance ? 

What’s a tv van? ?

I was there. The Wheatsheaf pub, borough market then the den.

Had a season ticket for 31 years, don’t really think I’ll be considered as an armchair fan ?‍??