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If the vac & garden hose fails to work on glued bends then my last resort out comes the jetter being plan c. You always need a plan c even though you never may need it :rolleyes:

plan d they don't want to go there as is a hacksaw and replace the downpipe at extra cost:D

Glued joints, most of the time
 
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