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Yeh bird proofing is an industry in itself. We’re too busy scrubbing the bloody things!
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But you will if you are employed by a ltd too?
I doubt there are many people on here that had £30+k a year salaries that they voluntarily left. You are only a slave to the job if you choose to chase the money. If you have an established business with a decent client base then making £30k a year will be far easier than being employed. I would think there are quite a few on here that do 30 hours a week and nett £600.I think one thing worth thinking about, and it's something I didn't when starting out.
You need decide whether you are wanting to start a business or go self EMPLOYED. It's two totally different mindsets but often gets confused as one.
As a self employed window cleaner once you are busy you are a slave to the job just like you are now in employment, except its worse in that if you are off work Ill, take a holiday or get rained off etc then it all affects your income and that 30k job looks more appealing. I had visions of early finishes and days off etc but in reality that's not what it's like. You go out in all weathers like it or not in the cold and rain and do a monotonous task day in day out.
If you are looking at it as a business opportunity it's a completely different thing entirely.
Different if he was working for an Agency etc on minimum wage with no guarantee of full weeks etc, but 30k income means your lifestyle is based on that income, as is million pound income means your lifestyle,spending etc would reflect that higher income more.I think he has stuck with his job, no reply since posting last Sunday
He needs £20k in savings, after he's bought his equipment, to maintain his current standard of living. This should, with sufficient hard work, give him about 18 months to build a reasonable business.Different if he was working for an Agency etc on minimum wage with no guarantee of full weeks etc, but 30k income means your lifestyle is based on that income, as is million pound income means your lifestyle,spending etc would reflect that higher income more.
Starting out from scratch get 10ish customers and you have got say a days work. You need to find another 40 to get a reasonable week.
So find 50 custies not so easy, and you have still only a weeks work, not a full months order book.
This is not as easy a occupation people think it is to start, besides the techniques of window cleaning required,the equipment needed,the physicallity,mindset etc.
IT IS GETTING THE CUSTOMERS IN THAT SHORT SPACE OF TIME SO YOU CAN SURVIVE.
EXACTLY!!IT IS GETTING THE CUSTOMERS IN THAT SHORT SPACE OF TIME SO YOU CAN SURVIVE
I am just re-starting, but I have seen what it is like, and if anything I would expect it to be tougher now. The problem is, there are some really good customers out there, that are willing to pay a good fee and are the best sort of customers you could ever wish for. Then there are lots of ok ish customers, they have some faults, but they are not too bad. Then there are really bad customers. Every single one of these customers is your boss, you eventually get to choose your boss which is a good thing, but it takes time, years, to be in a position to be able to do that. At first you do not get a choice, you get the boss you can get, some of them will be really nice to you and then surprise you by revealing how bad they are. I tell you now you will not find many bosses worse than some customers.
Then you have all the problems with running a business, single handed. Paperwork, finances, keeping in profit when a big bill comes and you realise that you have not turned over enough yet to cover it, lack of holiday and eventually you get sick, I got sick, anyone can get sick. Even though you did not realise it you suddenly discover that the money you had in the bank was to cover you when you got sick. A puncture, a bad winter, a bad summer, or a bad illness are all varying degrees of how the money stops.
If you read between the lines you realise something here, on this forum. It is full of nutters that have a strange fascination with cleaning windows, and a few ruthless financially driven people. The ones that have this strange mental affliction that makes them addicted to wanting to clean more and more windows, and the ruthless financially driven minds have one thing in common. They both need money to feed their habit. For those with the financially driven mind it is all about the money, they seek to clean more in order to earn more, for those that just want to clean more and more windows they always need more money to buy a van, move house to install a better WFP system or find some other thing to spend money on that they can use as an add on, to earn more, to clean more. I am not sure I have made this point well, but, it is all about the money no matter what the goal is.
So, we have a job that has some of the worse bosses you could ever imagine, we have all the stresses that comes with running our own business not least the constant cloud of financial uncertainly, and it is all about the money no matter what we really want out of it.
So no, I would not give up a 30k job for an easy life cleaning windows unless you are completely mad, and then, in that case, welcome aboard the insanity train.Chooo chooo!
Only the nutters on here :1f603:That was a joy to read and agree totally with you. Who else would be out cleaning windows all day long in sub zero temperatures, come home have a shower and their tea and then spend the night reading a window cleaning forum.
Window cleaners are mad, FACT!!