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[Iron Giant]

I'm starting to think this post is a wind up?

 

[Davy G]

Do you youse a preasure washer to get good flow rate of pure?

No mate, tap water from the customer's garden tap at mains pressure. Pure water to finally rinse the glass. I think you would know that a pressure washer power would blow wfp to bits.

 

[kevinc250]

I read it as pleasure washer, maybe my eye sight as i'm getting older, i'd have bought into the pleasure washer?.

 

[Davy G]

I read it as pleasure washer, maybe my eye sight as i'm getting older, i'd have bought into the pleasure washer?.

Ha ha! This getting older lark is not all it's cracked up to be, eh? I'd buy one too, especially if it came with blue pills to increase the pleasure. ?

 

[Iron Giant]

We do the same.?

I would have thought you run the risk of potential hard water staining on glass as you are in a hard water area, I have done conny roofs with self-cleaning glass with tap water then pure but I am in a soft water area with a tap tds of around 070ppm 

 

[Davy G]

I would have thought you run the risk of potential hard water staining on glass as you are in a hard water area, I have done conny roofs with self-cleaning glass with tap water then pure but I am in a soft water area with a tap tds of around 070ppm 

No mate, not at all. ? The hard water is not sitting on there for long as it would be from a dripping overflow. We put a mix of tap water, Chemex Superplus and Fairy Liquid through a Gardiner's backpack on a trolley and lather it in. The trolley is solely used for the soap mix. Then we connect to the customer's outside supply and wash out all the dirt and soap. The customers love to see the soap all over the conny. We carry a selection of fittings to allow us to connect to an inside tap if we need to. Finally, if we're doing the house windows we wash the upstairs windows, the rest of the windows and the conservatory glass with pure. We sell it as a triple process wash. Works a treat for us. We generally charge about £8 - £10 a panel for the roof and everything below it, so a full wash down. We don't ever do roof only. No half jobs. Our method leaves us plenty of hot water to do the other houses on the day. Our tds is around the 340 or so usually.

I rest my case. I’m sorry but this arguement is going no were. If I include my younger fishing days I’ve been using carbon poles for 30+ years so I think if there was any long term effects of using carbon poles I’d know about it. All this talk of carbon fibres being inhaled and ingested is absolute rubbish. You may get a bit of residue on your hands and unless you go round licking your hands or sniffing them all day which I very much doubt  with all the other crud that’s on there then I’m sure you will be fine. If I was a worker that manufactured these poles then I may be concerned but certainly not for the amount that we come into contact with. 

a Gardiner backpack on a trolley. Lather it in, then connect to the outside supply

 

[Iron Giant]

No mate, not at all. ? The hard water is not sitting on there for long as it would be from a dripping overflow. We put a mix of tap water, Chemex Superplus and Fairy Liquid through a Gardiner's backpack on a trolley and lather it in. The trolley is solely used for the soap mix. Then we connect to the customer's outside supply and wash out all the dirt and soap. The customers love to see the soap all over the conny. We carry a selection of fittings to allow us to connect to an inside tap if we need to. Finally, if we're doing the house windows we wash the upstairs windows, the rest of the windows and the conservatory glass with pure. We sell it as a triple process wash. Works a treat for us. We generally charge about £8 - £10 a panel for the roof and everything below it, so a full wash down. We don't ever do roof only. No half jobs. Our method leaves us plenty of hot water to do the other houses on the day. Our tds is around the 340 or so usually.

Seems like you know what you are doing ? yeah definitely got a good good way to do a conny clean, what is the Chemex Superplus, I did a quick search but didn't find much

 

[Davy G]

Seems like you know what you are doing ? yeah definitely got a good good way to do a conny clean, what is the Chemex Superplus, I did a quick search but didn't find much

Our system works well for us. I can't compare it to anyone else's as it's self taught through experimentation with nothing to compare it to. Chemex Superplus is a non-caustic ultra concentrated grime remover. We buy it delivered in 5 litre plastic cans. I don't remember the price as that's the accounts department territory (da wife) and she's not home at the moment. We add about a half litre or so to a Gardiner backpack full of water along with a good squirt of fairy liquid to make it sud up and stay on better. We use it regularly for everything that needs a bit of soap : plastic, wood, polycarbon, tinted glass, leaded glass, solar panels, cladding, tin  Before I started using it I left some neat concentrate on an offcut of new downpipe from fitting out the van pole tubes, to see if it would affect the plastic in any way. I left it on for a week and there were no ill effects.  In fact it added a nice sheen to the plastic. We've found that it holds up well to time. It's never discoloured anything or taken off a tint - coating. We would wash it out after a soak of about ten minutes in anything tinted etc. We might leave it on for longer on gfs if the weather isn't too hot. A correction, I just remembered, it will draw out the black inkiness from some of the really old seals and it can cause tiger stripes if left on fascias for a long time, but only on a very hot day. It won't remove bad tiger stripes with brush alone. We only use brushes, all our washes are done from the ground. No going up ladders with cloths or sponges. If the brush don't remove it, it stays on. We charge for a good, deep wash not a refurbishment. We keep some mix in the trolley all the time, a minimum and add to it as needed. That way we can keep it fairly fresh. We also keep a similar mix in three squirty bottles, one in my work station (back door), one in sons work station (side door) and one spare. As said, I can't compare it to anyone else's method or chemicals as it's the only one I've used, being self taught.

Slight update : management just got home. Chemex Superplus is delivered to us at around £39 for two 5 litre cans. That amount will do between 10 and 20 houses and conservatories I'd say. We don't measure it and we don't keep squirting it on. A quick sweep across and into all the nooks and crannies with pump going, switch off pump, lather it in with the occasional squirt of tap water to keep it the right consistency. Let it soak for a while wash it out ?

 

[Iron Giant]

@Davy G thanks for the informative reply, I did find something online which was this https://chemexuk.com/fad-green-shield/ not sure if it's the same stuff or similar I like the eco credentials 

 

[Davy G]

@Davy G thanks for the informative reply, I did find something online which was this https://chemexuk.com/fad-green-shield/ not sure if it's the same stuff or similar I like the eco credentials 

Your welcome. It's not the same stuff, though probably from the same company. I'll try and get some more info for you later. ?

 

[Davy G]

Here tis. ?

 

[scottish cleaning service]

https://shop.chemexuk.com/End-User/Business-Sector/Automotive/TFR-Exterior/Superplus-conc-5ltr-1147005C

Looks like this one but you have got to register.

 

[Diamond geezer]

No mate, tap water from the customer's garden tap at mains pressure. Pure water to finally rinse the glass. I think you would know that a pressure washer power would blow wfp to bits.

The ionics video I saw,the guy rinsed down with pure,from a hose and hand held sprayer(like any garden sprayer head) set on shower.it had a high drenching flow rate,so the triger is only pulled for a few seconds,but it was enough to completely rinse down with out the need for a brush I thought he must have a biger pump. It was SO much faster than rinsing from a pole and brush.

 

[Iron Giant]

The ionics video I saw,the guy rinsed down with pure,from a hose and hand held sprayer(like any garden sprayer head) set on shower.it had a high drenching flow rate,so the triger is only pulled for a few seconds,but it was enough to completely rinse down with out the need for a brush I thought he must have a biger pump. It was SO much faster than rinsing from a pole and brush.

It wasn't this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnl3B_c4fa8 was it at 6.39 minutes in, looks like he was using the main wfp hose from his van mount with a larger diameter hose as standard. 

 

[scottish cleaning service]

https://shop.chemexuk.com/End-User/Business-Sector/Automotive/TFR-Exterior/Superplus-conc-5ltr-1147005C

Looks like this one but you have got to register.

They don't sell it in Scotland unless you buy a pallet of 90 from them. @Davy G would need to buy it and send it too me but I have 20 five litre tubs of Degreaser to go through first! I used my mixer paddle in my battery drill to mix up some Hypo. Great, no splashes and will be using it to mix my degreaser and maybe put in some Surfactant like you do. ? 

 

[Davy G]

They don't sell it in Scotland unless you buy a pallet of 90 from them. @Davy G would need to buy it and send it too me but I have 20 five litre tubs of Degreaser to go through first! I used my mixer paddle in my battery drill to mix up some Hypo. Great, no splashes and will be using it to mix my degreaser and maybe put in some Surfactant like you do. ? 

They might be already supplying it to someone not too far from you that you could buy a can or two from. Might be worth asking the supplier. Fairy Liquid makes a great surfactant. We buy it by the gallon in a discount supermarket, Farmfoods £6 last time we bought it. When we do a gfc wash I sometimes spread some of the soapy, dirty water from them onto the windows so the customer can see how much dirt we're actually removing. It looks good when they see the house transitioning from absolutely filthy to shining. The windows and doors are included in the job. I would be careful when using anything like this, even more so when mixing with another product. Just in case.  ??

 

[scottish cleaning service]

They might be already supplying it to someone not too far from you that you could buy a can or two from. Might be worth asking the supplier. Fairy Liquid makes a great surfactant. We buy it by the gallon in a discount supermarket, Farmfoods £6 last time we bought it. When we do a gfc wash I sometimes spread some of the soapy, dirty water from them onto the windows so the customer can see how much dirt we're actually removing. It looks good when they see the house transitioning from absolutely filthy to shining. The windows and doors are included in the job. I would be careful when using anything like this, even more so when mixing with another product. Just in case.  ??

Fairy is ok for degreaser or water base cleaner but never for hypo. It can give off a toxic gas or detrimental to one's health. I learned that from my softwashing course. Folk use it because its cheap and easy to get but I won't use it. I can get 25 litres of surfactant for a ton and its just up the road from me. Might have a big softwash job so i'll be paying them a visit. Lucky i still have loads of hypo because I read they have run out because of virus.

 

[Pjj]

We have about 20x20 ltr drums at the moment but work is coming in thick and fast so it won’t last long ??

 

[Diamond geezer]

It wasn't this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnl3B_c4fa8 was it at 6.39 minutes in, looks like he was using the main wfp hose from his van mount with a larger diameter hose as standard. 

Yep that's the one,do you think a shure fow is powefull enough to feed water like that,it looks like a good flow,i,llhave to check my shureflow see how much it can deliver,i think some are more powerfull than others.what do you make of the prosess? cheers

 

[scottish cleaning service]

We have about 20x20 ltr drums at the moment but work is coming in thick and fast so it won’t last long ??

I heard Bonnymanns was sold out, I think places are using it for decontamination so don't use it liberally because you might need it one day.

 

[Pjj]

I heard Bonnymanns was sold out, I think places are using it for decontamination so don't use it liberally because you might need it one day.

I get mine from a local farm supply shop they have a very good supply at the moment