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Payload can't be worked out from the figures on that plate. Figure 1 is the max front axle weight permitted fully laden and figure 2 is the maximum rear axle weight permitted fully laden. The top weight would be the GVW but why its the same as the one underneath I don't know.
What's fully laden mean?

 
When your van is loaded to max weight capacity that is the weight each axle will take

The figures are for the van and load combined

 
How's that if my pay load is 705kg? Is that what the axles take before they snap or what lol?
No. Its what the axle is designed to carry and includes the rating of the tyres, bearings and springs. (Tyres have a max load molded into the wall of the tyre and well as the max air pressure the tyre can be inflated to.) It must also consider additional load and stress put on it during cornering, driving through potholes, over bumps and braking. There will be a safety margin built in but that doesn't concern you. In engineering speak it needs to be able to operate with total safety at that weight at normal motorway speeds. I wouldn't like to guess what the percentage safety margin is tbh. That would be privileged information that only the manufacturer would know.

If your van's payload is 705kgs then you will probably be able to load more than 705kgs in the van if you placed the load perfectly. The max axle weights will allow for a certain amount of leeway with miss placed operator loading. So you wouldn't get done for overloading either the front or rear axle, but you will get done for being over the GVW (Gross vehicle weight) in this example.

Another example; If you have a small 250 liter tank in the van you could probably put it virtually anywhere in the load compartment and not overload either axle. But if you put a 500liter tank in your van then you would have to place it very accurately to ensure proper weight distribution. Placement of that 500 liter tank would have to consider the driver and all other accessories, including fuel in the tank. My diesel tank holds 80 liters and situated just behind the front axle across the width of the van. Misplacement of the water tank could overload the front axle by just filling the tank up with diesel.

 
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No. Its what the axle is designed to carry and includes the rating of the tyres, bearings and springs. It must also consider additional load and stress put on it during cornering, driving through potholes, over bumps and braking. There will be a safety margin built in but that doesn't concern you. In engineering speak it needs to be able to with total safety that weight at normal motorway speeds. I wouldn't like to guess what the percentage safety margin is tbh. That would be privileged information that only the manufacturer would know.
If your van's payload is 705kgs then you will probably be able to load more than 705kgs in the van if you placed the load perfectly. The max axle weights will allow for a certain amount of leeway with miss placed operator loading. So you wouldn't get done for overloading either the front or rear axle, but you will get done for being over the GVW (Gross vehicle weight) in this example.

Another example; If you have a small 250 liter tank in the van you could probably put it virtually anywhere in the load compartment and not overload either axle. But if you put a 500liter tank in your van then you would have to place it very accurately to ensure proper weight distribution. Placement of that 500 liter tank would have to consider the driver and all other accessories, including fuel in the tank. My diesel tank holds 80 liters and situated just behind the front axle across the width of the van. Misplacement of the water tank could overload the front axle by just filling the tank up with diesel.
I don't have any fuel lol. But I roughly calculated that I would be on the border of fully loaded with my tank 2 power up reels 2 resin bottles, an over weight me and anorexic worker plus accessories , ladders and roofrack

 
I don't have any fuel lol. But I roughly calculated that I would be on the border of fully loaded with my tank 2 power up reels 2 resin bottles, an over weight me and anorexic worker plus accessories , ladders and roofrack
My son had a Peugeot Partner 2.0hdi 800LX van with a 500 liter tank in it. All he carries is his pole, some fold up ladders and a hose reel. With him in the van alone he is within the van's payload capacity with a full tank of water. But if I get into the passenger seat his van is overloaded.

There is a cleaner about 15 miles away who is semi retired now but still has his old Citroen Berlingo 600LX. Its fitted with a 650 liter flat tank. In the early days when he was still working full time he used to brim the tank every morning. This way he was sure that the tank would always be full enough not to start sucking air toward the end of the day where ever he parked. Every morning that van was flat on its suspension stops but he has never been pulled for overloading. His response was that it would only be overloaded for a few hours in the morning. Didn't care at all. That van is about 15 years old now.

 
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