Solar Panel Cleaning Training Course To Be Held 11th July 2015

[Green Pro Clean Ltd]

Are we not amazed that we are the only country in the world that rewards you for having kids and not seeking employment?

I honestly can't wait to leave, as I have mentioned before, just eight more years, sell round and house and get the hell out of here!

As it has already gone to the dogs I will let them have it!

 

[Solar Steve]

It seems solar Steve takes nothing but a bashing on here!!I no the concept of people paying to attend a course so they can sub contract to a company seems a little bizarre!

But if someone has time avaibable and paying a little investment means more work and money surely it's not that bad!

My girlfriend attends coursing about her job all the time but in her contract the company pays for it but if she leaves within a certain time she has to either pay the course fees or hand the cert back!

Steve let's say joe bloggs from Mars attends course does that mean he will will clean all the solar panels on Mars and you draw up a contract to state this!!

Like I've mentioned on the forum I've been offered a massive contract doin solar panels national but the company has insisted the work isn't sub contracted out and I as company owner put forward all scopes of work and risk asessments.if one of your contractors made a major mistake couldn't that come back on you??

There is also a new gov legislation coming into place which I'm sure you no off Steve that could generate a lot off work regarding solar panel cleaning

So if someone attends the course maybe without knowing they could earn serious money

All fair points @Eviestevie

As employers, your girlfriend bosses are duty bound to pay for the training, as I do for my employees. Attendees will not be my employees, so I'm not duty bound to provide free training.

Your Mars illustration fits. The contractor on Mars has first refusal on all jobs on Mars. There is no point me offering it to my guy on Jupiter is there? Mr Jupiter can't make it pay whereas Mr Mars can.

If your contract offer was that big, they should know that parts of it will be subbed out. They are naive to think otherwise.

When you speak of a major mistake, what do you mean?

Yes, I know the legislation. That's why I'm excited and passionate about this business. It's a good thing to be in at the moment.

Hope you don't mind me asking, but how come you've not enquired about the course?

 

[Eviestevie]

Is there anyone from Derbyshire attending

 

[Solar Steve]

Yes. But I don't know if they are willing to cover the whole county. Whereabouts are you based?

 

[ARCLtd]

Where do I sign up ?

I'm In Wolverhampton lol just down.the road from you .

or am I too close for comfort ???

 

[Eviestevie]

Yes. But I don't know if they are willing to cover the whole county. Whereabouts are you based?

Chesterfield

 

[Solar Steve]

@Eviestevie We have a company for Belper attending who is covering your area. We are not training two subcontractors who are too close together geographically.

Thank you for your interest. If anything changes, I will let you know.

 

[Solar Steve]

Where do I sign up ?I'm In Wolverhampton lol just down.the road from you .

or am I too close for comfort ???

@ARCLtd we cover down the road ourselves as you can appreciate!

 

[Andy]

There aren't any companies because we haven't run the course yet. thats what you have posted back on this page/ If you havent got any subcontractor companies that you can name because you havent run the course yet how come near the begining of this thread all these subcontractors that were making hundreds of pounds aweek from your jobs and Hurry sign up now only a few areas need covering. Thats a massive contricdiction of your own statements any one that cant see the crap your comeing out with deservers to be hoodwinked out of there cash

 

[Andy]

I noticed solar steve was on here while and after i posted the above this but diddent answer the post. mind you when you caught out fair and square ducking out is as good as any other tatic.

 

[Eviestevie]

@Eviestevie We have a company for Belper attending who is covering your area. We are not training two subcontractors who are too close together geographically.
Thank you for your interest. If anything changes, I will let you know.

Ye that's ok,Steve say for example one of your contractors turns up for a job on the roof of a industrial unit and dosent have the proper training and certs to clean the panels!reason I ask most of the work I've been asked to quote is on roofs!hence the courses we've been doing!weve had to do all sorts even to be allowed to just go up and put forward a scope of work and risk assessment!

Steve one of my good friends is general maintanance manager for a massive company that's how the work came about and has helped me out with a lot of the stuff I've had to put forward!

Your right though people think cleaning solar panels is just getting a panel and cleaning with pure water what they don't understand is the

All fair points @EviestevieAs employers, your girlfriend bosses are duty bound to pay for the training, as I do for my employees. Attendees will not be my employees, so I'm not duty bound to provide free training.

Your Mars illustration fits. The contractor on Mars has first refusal on all jobs on Mars. There is no point me offering it to my guy on Jupiter is there? Mr Jupiter can't make it pay whereas Mr Mars can.

If your contract offer was that big, they should know that parts of it will be subbed out. They are naive to think otherwise.

When you speak of a major mistake, what do you mean?

Yes, I know the legislation. That's why I'm excited and passionate about this business. It's a good thing to be in at the moment.

Hope you don't mind me asking, but how come you've not enquired about the course?

steve here is a answer to your questions!

Regarding a major mistake by one of your subbys what I meant was if you send joe blogggs the local windie from notts to clean panels that you state are potentailly life threatening who you have met on a 1 day training course is a Little contradictive!! How do you know that person/s will be acting safely and responsible on site when you hardly now them but give them your company name to brand about.

What if the panels are on industrial roofs? Your course dosent offer the revelent training for this?

Do your subbys have to carry out risk assessments?

How will they get on site without the right paperwork?

You state the company I'm currently working with are naive to think the work won't be subbed out??? They are one of Ireland's and britains leading industrial builders and suppliers responsible for probably 50percent of the work to be carried out under the legislation!

When we was putting together rough drafts of scope of work both there end and mine they insisted work wasn't subbed out due to the potential risks involved and each site would need a scope of work,risk assessment I soon realized 80 percent of the work is done before you get to the panels!

no I'm not here Steve to bash you but rather to share thoughts on what seems to be a grey area called solar panels lol

I already clean a few solar panels on domestic and commercial the commercial work Steve is all ground level farms etc how would you deal with sending your subbys out to more changeling panels??

I'd be a nervous wreck

Look forward to your reply

 

[Solar Steve]

@Andy I'm not quite sure what your first post above means, even though I've read it through a number of times.

We have over 60 subcontractors, but our subcontractors are not trained by us yet because we have not had a training course. Does that answer your question? I hope so.

 

[Solar Steve]

@Eviestevie all of your concerns regarding the safety of subcontractors are the reasons why we have written the course. As for the questions regarding roofs etc, we will look to answer them as best as we can on the training day.

 

[Eviestevie]

Or you can pay me and il attend and tell them?joking

No reason I ask is its been a mind field for me regarding the work on roofs etc even getting your foot in he door to quote the work

Some of the sites I've already visited Steve to quote I've had to invest money and time and training just to go up to quote the job

We went to a site the other day to view and building work was still being carried out so the site manager was a right arse and had us do there site induction before we could even view the panels which took 15 minutes!

Do u find it hard to get these jobs Steve with your current contractors?

Look forward to your reply

 

[Smurf]

Not being funny Steve but sorry if I'm going over old ground here

So let’s just clarify you have a duty of care to all your 60 so subs currently working for you…YES?

They should already be working to your own RAMS specific to each job and already have had an individual site induction and appropriate H&S training surely?

So pray do tell why now do they need to pay you to go on a course that you have now decided to start.

If I was one of your subs I quite franlky would tell you to go do one

 

[Eviestevie]

Not being funny Steve but sorry if I'm going over old ground hereSo let’s just clarify you have a duty of care to all your 60 so subs currently working for you…YES?

They should already be working to your own RAMS specific to each job and already have had an individual site induction and appropriate H&S training surely?

So pray do tell why now do they need to pay you to go on a course that you have now started.

Interesting smurf I was trying to ask similar question but my dyslexia sometimes throws me right of course!but ye surely like you said the Subs should already have the revelant training etc???

 

[TolishAPurd]

If I was one of your subs I quite franlky would tell you to go do one

...and then undercut you! Thats how business goes, and this 'goldmine' thats being portrayed will be cutthroat just like every other aspect of this trade. Meanwhile the only winner will be the person with the exit strategy of pumping out courses to every young and new hopeful wanting to cash in to an overcrowded market.

 

[Green Pro Clean Ltd]

Im just gonna take up drug dealing. Profits will be higher and the prison sentance shorter and less painful than this thread.

 

[TolishAPurd]

Im just gonna take up drug dealing. Profits will be higher and the prison sentance shorter and less painful than this thread.

Now thats a course I would join you on! :thumbsup: I'd be smoking, snorting, and injecting all the merchandise though. Id also be deliberatly naughty in class just so I get 'lines'. /emoticons/biggrin.png

 

[SolarPanelCleaning]

Window cleaning is much like drug dealing.

Driving round chatting to people you don't really care about, picking up twenty pound notes.

 

[Solar Steve]

@Green I think we're done here to be honest. I'm not going over things twice...

@Eviestevie it can be tricky can't it, but I wish you all the very best.