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Discussion in 'Water Fed Pole Cleaning' started by PMA Window Cleaning, Jan 24, 2013.

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  1. PMA Window Cleaning

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    HI all, my name is Paul and I live on the Wirral due to a lack of work in my current job and redundancy just around the corner i am looking to sell my car, buy a van and a Water fed pole system and set up my own window cleaning business......

    With the money from my car and some cash that i have saved up i will have around 12,000 pound to spend on the van/Water fed pole system.

    I have been looking at the brodex system due to there office being close to where i live.

    I am also thinking about going down to do some training with the British window cleaning academy as the only experience i have of window cleaning is doing my own windows at home and a friends house once a month for the last year or so

    Would it be worth my while buying a round??? and how do i go about it??

    Hopefully i wouldnt be wasting my time buying the van and wfp system............I just hope there work out there for me!!!

    What do you think???
     
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  2. crystalview

    crystalview Active Member
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    Buy a 2nd hand van the build ur own system as brodex system will cost you treble wat it costs to build your own. Ring me and ill tell you wat you need buddy 07849776010
     
  3. harunh

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    Get a second hand van for 3,000 kwid
    Then forget brodex just buy your own battery pump , varistream tank and hose reel :) also buy yourself a decent pole... All tgis will cost u about 800 kwid

    Now get your own signprinted clothing and get your van signed up :) then buy a lot of flyers :) im total it shud only cost u about 6 grand :) bow out of that 12,000 kwid... Take 2,000 out and put it aside and use it for your bills ,, mow go out ther knock on doors etc within months ull have your expenses n bills covered if u work hard

    This is wat i done :)
     
  4. bluemonkey

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    buy a partner van for 1500 and kit out with a pure freedom kit for about £900, get a pole from gardiners (slx25) £300 ish and then get a load of flyers printed up and go knocking all the time, dont spend any thing unless you got to and just knock as much as possible, its simple knock clean knock, after 3 months should be okl
     
  5. PMA Window Cleaning

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    Many thanks for all your comments guys :)

    I am a plumber by trade so dont have any problems with pipes etc etc its just making sure i get the right stuff and dont mess it up putting it together. The pure freedom diy kit looks a good set up??

    I want the inside of the van to look professional and not just throw together, wouldnt mind paying someone a few quid to help in the building of it.......

    I would like it to just plug into the mains water at home and fill up from there over night, due to the area having hard water i think the RO system would be better for myslef then finish it off in my van with a DI botttle???
     
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    Its ideal if hes selling his car as it still has 5 seats for the family if needed
     
  8. Richard

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    Hi Paul,
    if you can have a static tank set up for the pure water, you just need to transfer it - pump it into the van tank, depending on the pump, hose & size of the tank only takes about 15 minutes to do. 4040 RO with 20” pre-filters and DI 1000lt IBC water tank can all be had for less than £1000. Have a look at Gaps water for RO filtration prices - http://gapswater.co.uk/acatalog/reverse_osmosis.html

    In the van you just need a secured stainless steel frame for the water tank, with at least 2 x pumps with flow regulators - add a couple of DI to re-polish the water (the spare pump set up & 2 x DI’s in the van is not necessary but for the extra cost of about £350 it worth having) 1 x Hose reel, 1 x 25ft pole & 2 x brush. Shop around for prices; don’t know the current prices for securing the water tank.

    Whatever you spend on the van, it will be eventually written off against tax. Set up cost can be written off in year 1; you probably won’t pay any income tax in years 1, 2 & 3 depending on how you do it. Yearly operating cost will be around £4-5k.

    Total expenditure in the first 3 years (if you spend all your £12K) will probably be around £30k mark, give or take £5K. I think the current personal tax allowance is around £8k a year - as a guide you should be able to turn over £55-60k in your first 3 years and not pay any income tax – don’t take my advice on this get an accountant, and have a plan. :)

    Good luck

    Richard
     
  9. PMA Window Cleaning

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    Thank you everyone for your help :) glad there are people in the business that are happy to help me!!! Even tho that van on eBay is ready to go and looks great it's got high miles and I would be looking for a newer van I think it looks more professional. Thanks anyway,
    Am only 22 so I think a van with 6 seats would be really expensive to insure at my age.

    I need to buy myself a water tester and find out what the water is like on the Wirral.....I think it's HARD so an RO system will be the cheapest way of making my pure water, is it easier to make it with DI bottles???

    Think I might take myself down to the Cleaning Show in March!!!
     
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