Damo
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Will you be transferring your old system out of your old van?I will be ordering the facelift. Now comes with an automatic option for just a couple of grand more.
Got a couple of friends down south that drive transit customs (A plumber and a roofer) both said next time they're getting the auto.
Gonna order in Sept once holidays and summer is out the way.
No no. Building a new one. Current van will go to employee.Will you be transferring your old system out of your old van?
Of all the true 'players' I know (lads that run 5 vans plus not just sit on a keyboard claiming 20 employees but actually doing it) all of them have gone for one man to a van.I’m i now two minds whether to have two vans or a two man system in one van, I know working separately is more profitable, but have my son for the odd flat roof garage etc really benefits me plus I personally prefer the company lol.
It depends on the work you have also. When I’ve worked in a two on my round out of one van we almost doubled our takings for the day. If you spend more time driving than cleaning then your basically paying someone for company and will make your figures correct Green pro.Of all the true 'players' I know (lads that run 5 vans plus not just sit on a keyboard claiming 20 employees but actually doing it) all of them have gone for one man to a van.
The profit isn't a marginal difference it's 100% different.
Say you decide (for tax reasons) your 'wage' is £80 per day. Van does £300 in a day after a bit of fuel your wage etc let's say cost is £120 per day you got £180 in profit.
Put a 2 man setup in a van and you can only add maybee £50 more work in a day as you can only drive so far so fast. So for your two man van the profit is now £230 per day...... oh wait forgot his wage at ,£80 per day so profit only £150...... my bad.
With him doing same in separate van profits are £360 for the day.
Best way to make money on domestic windows is 1 man per van. If it wasn't why would all the top ',players' only have 1 man to a van?
Obviously they must do a lot of driving also which is becoming the norm these days. Like I said, you have to have the right work to do this. You’ll never be able canvass or build that sort of work from scratch in this day and age and is only achievable on work where your van only moves a few times in a day. I always worked as a two when I was an employee and although we never used the exactly double our takings we weren’t far off.There is no way 2 men in a van can 'double' the take. Just not happening.
Perfect Windows, JRH, Pryors and many more all have done the math and all chose to put 1 man in a van. These are all firms with £1m plus turnover.
If they thought for a second that 2 men to a van could double the take then do you not think they would?
Sorry Dave but in this instance I am going to follow the model of people that are running successful operations in the high six and seven figure markets and stick to one man in a van.
Only exception to this is training periods.
In my experience that’s far from the truth apart from when we are in the cab between jobs might have a natter then, have work together for the last couple of years.2 employees working together will natter like fish wives all day and get a lot less done.
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Two employees are totally a different to a father and son team who is have a passion for the business.In my experience that’s far from the truth apart from when we are in the cab between jobs might have a natter then, have work together for the last couple of years.
Then again im not a employee [emoji3]
I know that’s true as that’s what I do ?Going off greens forecast of £200 profit per week off 1 employee there’s no reason why you can’t take a lad with you in your van and get him to cover his wage and expenses plus another £200 for you. If not your really going wrong somewhere imo. Maybe trying to have 2,3 or 4 lads out the same van then maybe.
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