Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

[Pauljagger]

Hi just seeing if we can still work has anyone been pulled up in Yorkshire by the police 

 

[mike007]

Im seriously getting worried about this forum 

Cant believe how many barmy David Icke conspiracy plots im reading about the virus is on purpose to get us to go to a digital currency lol .

A digital currency is coming and its name will be XRP used to transfer money from country to country instantly , its already happening from usa to mexico as trials etc etc …………..its called the world advancing for the better not a plot. If you want to moan about that then there is no better thing than mobile phones and I bet you all have one of those lol .

A few things 

1. The virus will be here till end of summer fact.

2. Not working delays spread even if your WFP and esp if your trad like me . Look WFP still spreads it unless your changing your gloves every 5 mins washing them every 5 mins and your hose to that's dragging on the ground ………..what do you WFP merchants not get , even if the government are saying your safe ………...please use your own brains …...its about contact points to contact points isn't it .

3. Cant believe im agreeing with PART TIMER ( falls of his chair ) but there is no known fact that once you have it you cant have it again and if you watched the bbc  yesterday they had an expert from  china on and there is a possibility of 2 STRAINS  yes 2 STRAINS a mild strain and an aggressive strain they have seen this in labs FACT . And there is no guarantee that if your infected with the mild strain it will provide immunity from the aggressive strain .

4. You can tell Gov DONT KNOW what there doing did anyone see Trump just sign the trillion dollar trade deal look at the spacing of his staff straight behind him its an absolute farce . Also did anyone see again on the bbc of a video of Boris in parliament last week they were 2M apart on the benchs and then when they got up they all crowded around Boris as he was speaking to the speaker of the house of commons . People including government HAVE NOT GOT IT YET .

5. What this all tells you is to USE YOUR OWN COMMON SENSE to protect your family and others .

PLEASE DONT WORK !!

P.s I walked by a copper yesterday who was off building a wall right next to the pavement , to keep to the ruling he was making everyone step in the road . There are a lot of plonkers walking around in this world …..DONT BE A PLONKER USE YOUR HEAD .

I believe fact 1 is too long ( I am  hoping this virus will not last more than 8-12 weeks in this serious state if we obey guidelines) Facts to back my statement, none but Viruses die after time and we are learning daily and I am optimistic by nature. Also our and other Countries populations will not tolerate prolong self isolation for too long, so we have to now while the population are on side to starve the spreading capability, which is why it is insane for us to work at this time.

 

[Iron Giant]

They are only letting so many at a time in our supermarkets , you stand in a que   2 m apart are handed anti Bach wipe to wipe trolly/basket handle , throughout the store there are lines on the floor 2 m apart and you have to stay in that area if there is someone in the next gap , only one person per family is allowed in and a maximum of 3 of the same items can be purchased , Tesco, Sainsbury’s,Lidl, are all operating this way in my town 

It's the same in my area so my wife tells me, supermarkets are like an Alien world to me I don't even know how much a loaf of bread costs ? 

 

[Iron Giant]

I’ve never seen a thread this mental. Can’t keep up.

same round here. They reckon that’s where you’ll contract it too.

Who's got an on contract out on the virus ? , good to see you back I was going to pm you but forgot ?

 

[Tormato]

Hi just seeing if we can still work has anyone been pulled up in Yorkshire by the police 

They have in South Yorkshire. Every area seem to be different 

You can work, that's not the issue.  The issue we're having on here is SHOULD we work ?

Some good cases for don't work with some good cases go to work

For now it's our own individual decision 

Sorry if that's as clear as mud

 

[Iron Giant]

Police are trying to hit the headlines to get a 'tough' msg out there - hence they are deliberately releasing drone footage of couple in the middle of nowhere walking on national tv/media

Thing is though I walk miles with my dog and know people who can walk 8 miles easily, be interesting to really know if that couple really where in the middle of no where, 4-5 days ago not far from me a guy got pulled over and police told him to turnaround as his travel wasn't essential he was moving house with their furniture in the back of the van so had no choice and had to argue his point that he the only place he could go is his new house. 

 

[Jjamie]

Letter from Boris on its way to us all 

 

[fast_muchly]

Genuine Question not being sarcastic but I think most people on here know where I stand on this issue .

But I own a dog yes ??

1.As a dog owner im being told its WRONG to get in my car on my OWN and drive 2 miles to a forest to walk my dog in seclusion or a long way from other people if there are some . Im basically being told I have to go from my own home by walking to where ever LOCALLY I can exercise my dog .

2. With the ABOVE in mind if that's deemed dangerous DRIVING TO A local secluded spot to walk my pet .

3. Why do WFP merchants think its o.k to drive miles on miles in the name of work when most of them that's complaining can claim the 80% to potentially infect there families and customers  as gloves and masks wil lnot stop you spreading the disease . 

4. You can say I have to work ( DO YOU REALLY ) 

5. The point im making is there obviously saying point 1 is not wanted so why do you think NON essential work is folks ? .

 

[Dave Leeds]

Pizza deliveries, curry deliveries, Amazon orders mainly non essential all these services use vans that need fuel. This requires a money transaction via card usually over swipe method so keying in numbers on a keypad used by nearly everyone else. Post men delivering **** that is non essential when everyone as email these days, not to mention all the food flyers coming through your door. Kids being allowed into school from essential workers, all will be mixing try telling a kid to isolate, many of these essential workers are treating corona virus patients they will infect there kids who will infect other kids and transmit virus. London is still open I can drive there today myself if I want today and come back home tomorrow. I could go on and on this is madness, then someone on here will have a go at me for working to feed my family and pay mortgage cause government protection does not help me. All of the above will spread this disease far more effectively than the vast array of cleaning methods I am adopting. In fact I will be cleaning the door that could well be infected from all the deliveries taking place. Get real here

 

[fast_muchly]

Pizza deliveries, curry deliveries, Amazon orders mainly non essential all these services use vans that need fuel. This requires a money transaction via card usually over swipe method so keying in numbers on a keypad used by nearly everyone else. Post men delivering **** that is non essential when everyone as email these days, not to mention all the food flyers coming through your door. Kids being allowed into school from essential workers, all will be mixing try telling a kid to isolate, many of these essential workers are treating corona virus patients they will infect there kids who will infect other kids and transmit virus. London is still open I can drive there today myself if I want today and come back home tomorrow. I could go on and on this is madness, then someone on here will have a go at me for working to feed my family and pay mortgage cause government protection does not help me. All of the above will spread this disease far more effectively than the vast array of cleaning methods I am adopting. In fact I will be cleaning the door that could well be infected from all the deliveries taking place. Get real here

Because this type of emergency is so new a lot of mistakes are happening government are feeling there way through it .

Its up to us to use common sense !! . 

All the above you have mentioned should not be happening at all . One thing I wil lsay its said at the moment that virus on paper ( post ) because it absorbs can only last a few hours , so by the time you get your post it should be safe . This also applies to most deliveries but again to be totally safe it should not be happening .Please take note it lasts on upvc for 3 DAYS !! .

The difference with WFP people thinking there safe is you go DOOR TO DOOR dealing with old people .The fact you are wearing gloves and mask protects you unless you forget and touch your face But as you open that gate , and then move a bin and then put a hand out to stabalise yourself and infect NOT SOMEONE BUT A CONTACT POINT . Your dragging your hose along the ground ,you pull that hose and then grab your reel handle to wind it all back in ( hand on heart how many are washing the reel handle everytime you do a new house ) . The list is endless and WFP people im afraid are making things up to make it easy on therselves to carry on working . My heart goes out to you if you don't qualify for the 80%  but like someone else said what where you going to do if you broke a leg ????? , when you went into this type of work . The only thing you can do is claim what you can UC or WTC ESA and sit this out and protect EVERYONE .

 

[scottish cleaning service]

Any links to where you got this information from?

Just read there 8 strains, heard the about the 6 strains on Channel 4 news special report.

Just read there 8 strains, heard the about the 6 strains on Channel 4 news special report.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/03/27/scientists-track-coronavirus-strains-mutation/5080571002/

 

[fast_muchly]

Just to prove Goverments haven't got it and something similar happened with Boris last week in parliament .

SPOT THE MISTAKE !! 

This was the trillion dollar protect the stock marketdeal held only the other day while people drop like flies .

 

[scottish cleaning service]

Top class scaremongering there Scottish ?

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/03/27/scientists-track-coronavirus-strains-mutation/5080571002/

They now say there are 8 strains. The reporter on Channel 4 said there was 6 and so 6 tests need to be done.

There are not.. there are possibly 2 with 1 being worse than the other..

They haven't even been able to.confirm that yet.

I am only saying what Channel 4 news reporter was saying. Don't shoot the messenger. 

 

[Tormato]

Here lies the problem.  A week in politics.

Boris Johnson addresses the country.  That was too much to take in live, I know lets check the Govt website. Essential workers only. The government websites then edits this out. The confusion begins

Michael Gove says the next day essential work only then vanishes for a few days.

Jeremy Corbyn, who hasn't vanished yet, gets stuck in

Other MP's who also start saying the same, the Mayor of London wades in. 

Nicola Sturgeon says it's ok for us to go to work and becomes a Saint to many window cleaners. This is a big one but wait......

A  day or two later her voice in Parliament Ian Blackford says the complete opposite in PMQs , essential workers only. Boris Johnson wholeheartedly agrees with him!

Nicola Sturgeon then does a U turn and also says essential work only and the police can pull you.  

The police are good to her promise and start pulling window cleaners (and the odd dog walker) but not just in Scotland, all over the UK.

Boris Johnson then writes a letter to us and says we can travel to work, if you can safely work I presume?   This will change no doubt before the letter lands on our doormat. Reminds me of the old World Cup joke about the national team being back home before the postcards.

Add to that Piers Morgan's one man crusade for essential work only, which for someone as divisive as him is gaining massive momentum. 

It's not illegal to go to the Peak District, but try and get there. Public opinion/outrage can make something legal, seem illegal.

Can we? Yes....I think. Should we? Only we ourselves can answer.

 

[Dave Leeds]

I will add one more point to this, we will be asked as a nation to go back to work way before this crisis ends. In fact people will die as a result of people being asked to go back to work before this crisis ends, because at the end of the day there will be no economy to pay the doctors nurse run the hospitals or the country if we do not. Doctors and nurse will not work for long if there payment is a bunch of happy clappers on a Thursday night but no pay check. The death or the economy would be so severe that the death toll would make corona virus look like a picnic party. Government guide lines say I can work safely, when they say I can not I will respect but I know it will not last for long. Direct your anger at a government that knew this was coming one day, have had endless warnings and meetings about it, then left the door open for the world to bring it to our shores. The governments job is look after the nation, mine is to look after my family. 

 

[Andrew called my Father]

Pizza deliveries, curry deliveries, Amazon orders mainly non essential all these services use vans that need fuel. This requires a money transaction via card usually over swipe method so keying in numbers on a keypad used by nearly everyone else. Post men delivering **** that is non essential when everyone as email these days, not to mention all the food flyers coming through your door. Kids being allowed into school from essential workers, all will be mixing try telling a kid to isolate, many of these essential workers are treating corona virus patients they will infect there kids who will infect other kids and transmit virus. London is still open I can drive there today myself if I want today and come back home tomorrow. I could go on and on this is madness, then someone on here will have a go at me for working to feed my family and pay mortgage cause government protection does not help me. All of the above will spread this disease far more effectively than the vast array of cleaning methods I am adopting. In fact I will be cleaning the door that could well be infected from all the deliveries taking place. Get real here

Princess Maria of Spain has just died from Covid 19.. You could be carrying the virus without any symptoms whatsoever and then proceed to infect all around you. It requires effort from all of us, the longer we stay away and and off work and reduce the chance of viral spread the sooner we can potentially return to some form of normality. I personally am finding this very difficult, so please do not tell me to get real, I find your request very offensive. 

 

[Andrew called my Father]

Here lies the problem.  A week in politics.

Boris Johnson addresses the country.  That was too much to take in live, I know lets check the Govt website. Essential workers only. The government websites then edits this out. The confusion begins

Michael Gove says the next day essential work only then vanishes for a few days.

Jeremy Corbyn, who hasn't vanished yet, gets stuck in

Other MP's who also start saying the same, the Mayor of London wades in. 

Nicola Sturgeon says it's ok for us to go to work and becomes a Saint to many window cleaners. This is a big one but wait......

A  day or two later her voice in Parliament Ian Blackford says the complete opposite in PMQs , essential workers only. Boris Johnson wholeheartedly agrees with him!

Nicola Sturgeon then does a U turn and also says essential work only and the police can pull you.  

The police are good to her promise and start pulling window cleaners (and the odd dog walker) but not just in Scotland, all over the UK.

Boris Johnson then writes a letter to us and says we can travel to work, if you can safely work I presume?   This will change no doubt before the letter lands on our doormat. Reminds me of the old World Cup joke about the national team being back home before the postcards.

Add to that Piers Morgan's one man crusade for essential work only, which for someone as divisive as him is gaining massive momentum. 

It's not illegal to go to the Peak District, but try and get there. Public opinion/outrage can make something legal, illegal.

Can we? Yes....I think. Should we? Only we ourselves can answer.

In short, brilliant.......

 

[scottish cleaning service]

They are still talking about different mutations as in sars, h1n1 and swine flu etc.

They have never truly 100% died out.

There is only 1 covid19 but there might be a slightly mutated variant which is why they are saying possibly 2 almost identical strains may exist.

Well the special report on C4 said there was 6 strains and one would need 6 different tests. Working at a Doctors first clean and he was telling me about how it mutates, its a very clever organism. We will never truly be able to beat it because it is like the common cold. The moment you make a vaccine to beat it, it starts to mutate so the vaccine doesn't work anymore because the new strain appears. That's, what's happened since the first outbreak all those years ago. 

 

[fast_muchly]

I will add one more point to this, we will be asked as a nation to go back to work way before this crisis ends. In fact people will die as a result of people being asked to go back to work before this crisis ends, because at the end of the day there will be no economy to pay the doctors nurse run the hospitals or the country if we do not. Doctors and nurse will not work for long if there payment is a bunch of happy clappers on a Thursday night but no pay check. The death or the economy would be so severe that the death toll would make corona virus look like a picnic party. Government guide lines say I can work safely, when they say I can not I will respect but I know it will not last for long. Direct your anger at a government that knew this was coming one day, have had endless warnings and meetings about it, then left the door open for the world to bring it to our shores. The governments job is look after the nation, mine is to look after my family. 

Dave  I feel your pain mate honestly I do 

But ask yourself this ……….how will you feel even if it cant be proved but god forbid your actions bring the infection into your family and the worst happens if this is only a nagging feeling in your mind .

Are you truly going to be happy saying well I can live with myself I did the right thing as it was the goverments fault .

Don't lose sight of people are DIEING here  whats most important money or life as that is the gamble your taking.

I totally agree WFP is a lot safer than what  I do but it has a lot more risks to it than most WFP merchants realise or are wanting to admit to , to try and qualify in there own mind its o.k to carry on .

 

[Dave B]

This is completely irresponsible behaviour. 

 

[Andrew called my Father]

I will add one more point to this, we will be asked as a nation to go back to work way before this crisis ends. In fact people will die as a result of people being asked to go back to work before this crisis ends, because at the end of the day there will be no economy to pay the doctors nurse run the hospitals or the country if we do not. Doctors and nurse will not work for long if there payment is a bunch of happy clappers on a Thursday night but no pay check. The death or the economy would be so severe that the death toll would make corona virus look like a picnic party. Government guide lines say I can work safely, when they say I can not I will respect but I know it will not last for long. Direct your anger at a government that knew this was coming one day, have had endless warnings and meetings about it, then left the door open for the world to bring it to our shores. The governments job is look after the nation, mine is to look after my family. 

By your own reasoning, you are increasing the risk of killing your own family..........