Ionic Thermopure Hotbox 9kw diesel water heater

[P4dstar]

Would be fine for intermittent use though surely, like cold mornings for 3 hrs and one-off cleans or fsg

Well technically no, when you could do an immersion heater for a fraction of the price

On a cold day the immersion heater set up might be cold before you’re done.

 

[P4dstar]

We have them on the hottest setting and once the tank is very hot in the summer months turn the boiler off at lunch times . The Grippatank adjustable one is very good bit hit and miss with the actual temperature but it’s not that important to be exact anyway .

I have the Grippa system on the lowest setting and the Ionics ones on summer at all times. I’ve found the hotter settings crack windows and ruin brushes pretty quickly.

 

[Pjj]

I have the Grippa system on the lowest setting and the Ionics ones on summer at all times. I’ve found the hotter settings crack windows and ruin brushes pretty quickly.

We have cracked 4 windows in 12 years using hot and everyone had existing damage chips on the edges of the sealed units luckily they were all small units . As for brushes we use supreame stiff find theses are the only ones that last with hot water get 3 months out of a brush used 8 hours a day 5 days a week , all other brushes last a fraction of that have killed a few brushes in a mornings work although they were supposed to be suitable for hot water .

 

[Iron Giant]

On a cold day the immersion heater set up might be cold before you’re done.

Going off what has been said by other members it will stay at a decent temperature

 

[kevinc250]

Going off what has been said by other members it will stay at a decent temperature

you mean ambient mate,

 

[P4dstar]

Going off what has been said by other members it will stay at a decent temperature

I watched Squeaky clean Dave’s video years ago. He covered his tank with an insulation jacket. It was something like you’d have had on a boiler years back. I imagine that makes all the difference. The only thing I’d say is the immersion heater set up is actually quite expensive for what it is. I did the sums once and remember it being slightly more than a diesel heater.

 

[P4dstar]

I watched Squeaky clean Dave’s video years ago. He covered his tank with an insulation jacket. It was something like you’d have had on a boiler years back. I imagine that makes all the difference. The only thing I’d say is the immersion heater set up is actually quite expensive for what it is. I did the sums once and remember it being slightly more than a diesel heater.

To run I mean. When I say I did the sums I imagine I actually just read them from a post Spruce put up

 

[Yogi1872]

To run I mean. When I say I did the sums I imagine I actually just read them from a post Spruce put up

If your using 1.2 litres an hour of fuel to run it then immersion heater is by far the cheapest, you can get deals that give you 10p per kw through the night, which makes it much cheaper to run aswell.

 

[Pjj]

If your using 1.2 litres an hour of fuel to run it then immersion heater is by far the cheapest, you can get deals that give you 10p per kw through the night, which makes it much cheaper to run aswell.

But you won’t get anywhere near as hot water with an immersion unless you have a very well insulated tank it cools down quickly

 

[Iron Giant]

you mean ambient mate,

I sit in a barrel of cold water so my definition of ambient or hot might be very different to yours

 

[ched999uk]

If your using 1.2 litres an hour of fuel to run it then immersion heater is by far the cheapest, you can get deals that give you 10p per kw through the night, which makes it much cheaper to run aswell.

You can get deals that offer 7p/kwh between 11:30 and 5:30am!

 

[Pjj]

You can get deals that offer 7p/kwh between 11:30 and 5:30am!

Soon to change from what I have been hearing government are looking to cash in on electric car charging and charge a much higher tariff for it

 

[ched999uk]

Soon to change from what I have been hearing government are looking to cash in on electric car charging and charge a much higher tariff for it

Not sure they can. i.e. if I use what is nicknamed the' Granny charger' then it's slow and doesn't have any 'smart' capabilities, so I can't see how Gov would know I was using that electricity to charge my car
That said, one way or another the gov have to replace the huge income they get from fuel sales that they lose when going for net zero!

 

[Pjj]

Not sure they can. i.e. if I use what is nicknamed the' Granny charger' then it's slow and doesn't have any 'smart' capabilities, so I can't see how Gov would know I was using that electricity to charge my car
That said, one way or another the gov have to replace the huge income they get from fuel sales that they lose when going for net zero!

It’s something to do with the house smart meter it can identify what’s being used this is why they have been pushing fitting them one of the guys at the firestation works for the electricity company and he was saying about it , it’s been on the cards for a while I think the government are waiting for more people to by ev before introducing it , watch this space .

 

[ched999uk]

It’s something to do with the house smart meter it can identify what’s being used this is why they have been pushing fitting them one of the guys at the firestation works for the electricity company and he was saying about it , it’s been on the cards for a while I think the government are waiting for more people to by ev before introducing it , watch this space .

Doesn't surprise me, they are going to need to do something huge to make up for the loss of duty and vat on fuel. I think they raise about £30 billion from fuel duty and the vat on it - works out something like 2.5% of gov income!
That's a big hole to fill.

If gov start charging extra for charging a car I am glad I have solar as that can charge my car up before the meter sees the electric useage. So instead of earning 15p a unit for export I will export it to my car
No doubt they will come up with an ingenious way to charge every vehicle user. Pay per mile - maybe mot check time and even new cars under 3 will have to have a mini mot/mileage check. They could do it like tax - they guestimate what you will pay and charge you 6 months in advance?

They will just start hiking up fuel duty to make running IC vehicles too expensive. Hopefully when they have worked out how to make electric or hydrogen haulage vehicles.

Doom and Gloom hay

 

[Part Timer]

Doesn't surprise me, they are going to need to do something huge to make up for the loss of duty and vat on fuel. I think they raise about £30 billion from fuel duty and the vat on it - works out something like 2.5% of gov income!
That's a big hole to fill.

If gov start charging extra for charging a car I am glad I have solar as that can charge my car up before the meter sees the electric useage. So instead of earning 15p a unit for export I will export it to my car
No doubt they will come up with an ingenious way to charge every vehicle user. Pay per mile - maybe mot check time and even new cars under 3 will have to have a mini mot/mileage check. They could do it like tax - they guestimate what you will pay and charge you 6 months in advance?

They will just start hiking up fuel duty to make running IC vehicles too expensive. Hopefully when they have worked out how to make electric or hydrogen haulage vehicles.

Doom and Gloom hay

I can see them doing this for personal vehicles but after what they've done to businesses, massively increasing NI, I doubt they'll do this to commercial vehicles.

 

[Iron Giant]

That said, one way or another the gov have to replace the huge income they get from fuel sales that they lose when going for net zero!

Net zero, yet they've given the green light for a new runway at Heathrow

 

[ched999uk]

Net zero, yet they've given the green light for a new runway at Heathrow

I was saying with my tongue in cheek, couldn't find right emoji